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Hazel
Aug 28, 2019 10:44:00 GMT
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Post by degulover21 on Aug 28, 2019 10:44:00 GMT
I don’t know if this is the right time to put this, the question is now hazel is alone what do I do? I just feel so bad for her feel like am the reason to blame she’s alone.
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Hazel
Aug 28, 2019 10:58:07 GMT
Post by savvy on Aug 28, 2019 10:58:07 GMT
I think you're right that you have to think about Hazel, but remember that she will need time to grieve for her friend, just as much as you will. BUT, you are not to blame, you did everything you could and more and made the only decision you could in the end which was in the best interests of Coco. Most of us have been there and what you are feeling is normal.
There are a number of options you have to think about for Hazel;
1. Keeping her alone, but with the others nearby while she grieves; 2. Introducing her to a new friend. This will require having a third cage, which would need to be next to hers and would entail a lengthy introduction. 3. Introducing her to Snowball and Fudge making a group of three. She will be aware of the other two and MAY be the better option, but this would depend on how they all feel about each other and you would still have to introduce them.
Nothing needs to be decided right away. Think about what you think would be best, we're here for you.
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Post by degulover21 on Aug 28, 2019 12:40:35 GMT
I know I’m gonna do 1 and then try doing 3, I don’t want to do 2 just I don’t want to losing coco and putting her to sleep was soooo hard, god I miss her so much.
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Post by degulover21 on Aug 28, 2019 14:33:13 GMT
When would I put there cages together I was gonna take them of the stand so they could be closer. I need to clean and move my bedroom around to put them together. It is wrong to do this I feel like it’s disrespectful to coco
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Post by savvy on Aug 28, 2019 14:44:55 GMT
It's not being disrespectful to Coco, it's looking after her little friend Hazel. You can put them side by side now if it's easier. It may help Hazel to have them nearby.
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Post by moletteuk on Aug 28, 2019 15:45:17 GMT
Honestly DL, you couldn't be disrespectful to Coco if you tried, sometimes thinking about people or pets remaining is a good way to cope, you just do whatever you can to get you through the next few days.
You have a plan there with 1 followed by 3, there is no rush at all, spend time just being with Hazel and Snowball and Fudge, whatever feels right. Just make the time pass and keep the pain and distress as manageable as you can. Remember, you did everything you could.
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Hazel
Aug 28, 2019 16:09:34 GMT
Post by deguconvert on Aug 28, 2019 16:09:34 GMT
I heartily echo what Moletteuk has said!
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Post by degulover21 on Aug 28, 2019 21:27:55 GMT
I put it like this I hope it’s okay. Missing coco it’s unreal. I put the cage on the floor and hazel came out for a run and took herself to bed In her cage not seen that .
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Post by savvy on Aug 28, 2019 21:35:35 GMT
That set up looks fine, but when any of the degus are running free, please watch their interactions through the bars with the others. It may give you an idea as when face to face intros can be done.
Hazel will be feeling a little lost without Coco, but she will understand that she was very ill. You have all been through so much in the last few days.
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Post by winic1 on Aug 28, 2019 22:01:37 GMT
Have you cleaned them yet? I would hold off a few days if you havent, then clean Hazel's slowly, one section at a time, so that you don't just "eliminate" Coco's scent immediately, which to me seems likely to confuse Hazel. Hazel will be missing and mourning Coco, too. So, to me, making her scent traces fade slowly seems better.
What do others think about this?
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Post by savvy on Aug 28, 2019 22:07:47 GMT
Got to agree with winic.
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Hazel
Aug 28, 2019 22:23:43 GMT
Post by deguconvert on Aug 28, 2019 22:23:43 GMT
Ditto
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Post by degulover21 on Aug 28, 2019 22:24:12 GMT
Have you cleaned them yet? I would hold off a few days if you havent, then clean Hazel's slowly, one section at a time, so that you don't just "eliminate" Coco's scent immediately, which to me seems likely to confuse Hazel. Hazel will be missing and mourning Coco, too. So, to me, making her scent traces fade slowly seems better. What do others think about this? I haven’t clean them I don’t think I could bring myself to yet. Hazel seem okay at the moment is it possible she knew about coco and something wasn’t right cos she only groomed her a few times and laid at night with her while she was poorly for 10 days ,hazel trying to be friendly but others are making noises.
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Hazel
Aug 29, 2019 14:45:52 GMT
Post by savvy on Aug 29, 2019 14:45:52 GMT
What sort of noises are they making? Are they happy noises or are they chittering?
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Hazel
Aug 29, 2019 15:00:35 GMT
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Post by degulover21 on Aug 29, 2019 15:00:35 GMT
I think hazel is feeling it now.. all morning she’s been pinging the bar when they was in bed trying to get there attention.I don’t know what to do. It’s killing me to see her like this. This horrible pain In my belly. Only slept 3 hours yesterday
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Post by deguconvert on Aug 29, 2019 16:13:45 GMT
You're keeping up on your meds, DL21? Maybe you could see your GP and tell her that you've suffered the loss of a much loved pet family member, and are not sleeping. Maybe she can help with that? And check out your stomach pain? (Does your stomach hurt more with food in, or when it is empty?)
Hazel is doing OK. I actually take that as a good thing, her pinging the bars and showing interest in Fudge and Snowball. Don't rush to get them together, let them have a week at least of side by side, and then maybe think of some face to face meets outside of the cage. She may be lonely, yes, but she is showing strong interest in life as well!! She is doing well!
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Hazel
Aug 29, 2019 16:39:24 GMT
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Post by degulover21 on Aug 29, 2019 16:39:24 GMT
My belly hurts with the heartache. Wish coco was still here I miss her and I think hazel is too now. I’ve been letting her out since yesterday more to help her. But she’s into fudge and snowball. I noticed they are only aggressive when she goes up to there cage and when it’s the otherway around hazel making happy sounds and the others don’t really do any thing. I know she had me but I know I’m not enough to a certain extent.
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Post by deguconvert on Aug 30, 2019 6:06:16 GMT
But in the short term, while you help them to get to know each other, and then until they are successfully introduced, you will be enough. And she will love you for it.
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Hazel
Aug 31, 2019 12:26:42 GMT
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Post by degulover21 on Aug 31, 2019 12:26:42 GMT
Hey guys, so after a hard few days. I wanted to talk about hazel they’ve lived side by side for 5 days not really bothered each other hazel goes up top and look for them but that’s about it. When our playing they don’t bother each other. Like they used to 2 years ago. When they go up to hazels cage she makes happy noises and they do nothing. When it’s the other way around they chitter their teeth but that’s about it. What do you guys think of these?
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Post by deguconvert on Aug 31, 2019 18:20:48 GMT
I think it is too soon to know a whole lot yet, love. I think you need to give them more time. They are familiar with Hazel, but it could take more time for them to be more welcoming of her. You've not reached a full week yet, and truly, it could take several weeks before you see and hear welcoming noises from Fudge and Snowball like you are hearing from Hazel. I hope it is sooner. For both you and Hazel . . . but degus don't respect our hopes, nor our time frame very much.
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