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Post by davethedegu on Nov 19, 2017 19:42:53 GMT
I don't know, I go away for a bit and find all of this! First up, I would get a clear shot of their bums and post them on here. To be so confident of a male goo, AND confident enough to do a neutering, it's quite unbelievable! It would be great to get the pictures up before your appointment. Is it possible that Dave really is a Dave, but has already been snipped? If Dave is really Davina, it is worth keeping a close (weekly) eye on weight gain as an indication of possible pups. Flash is a sweetie! Also I'm glad you are back on! I wanted your approval on Flash so bad
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Post by misscatafer on Nov 19, 2017 20:09:35 GMT
Flash is so cute!! That vet sounds quite incompetent... Hopefully you have found another one to carry out Flash's procedure (if it required!) just be mindful when they are interacting through the bars that male degus do have very long *ahems*, therefore there will still be a risk of him impregnating her if he is able to get too close!
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Post by zenaida on Nov 19, 2017 20:22:58 GMT
For photos of the underside, do you have any clear bowls or containers you could put them in? Something big enough for one to sit in it for a moment while you lift up the container and take a picture through the bottom. That could help with the problem of holding them for a picture.
Oh the other pictures we sometimes get: if you have a metal cage and your degus climb, sometimes owners wait until they are climbing and snap a few shots.
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Post by bouncy on Nov 19, 2017 21:01:15 GMT
In Flash's case, it sounds like you could just hold him with one hand and snap with the other!
He's soooooo white! I initially thought he was a gerbil!
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Post by bouncy on Nov 19, 2017 22:17:40 GMT
I missed one of your posts! Yes, it's very common for p@h to identify the wrong sex. We've had members on here who've been sold a pair of males, only to have a litter of pups arrive a few weeks later. It's safe to say that any gap is noticeable. Once you have seen them, it's hard to mistake, whether they're stretched up at the bars or not. I find these pictures make it VERY clear forum.degus-international-community.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=71&p=1327&hilit=Sex#p1327So, we begin the six week countdown to the big Flash & Davina romance!
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Post by davethedegu on Nov 20, 2017 12:00:40 GMT
misscatafer Oooo thanks for saying that, they don't spend that long near the bars with each other and I'm always watching but I didn't realize they could so that is good to note down. After seeing Flash I think its a lot clearer to me that Dave is Davina. I will try and get a picture tonight promise! I do have a bunch on my phone but I felt silly uploading as they are quite blurry. I shall try the bar climbing tactic. At the moment they are like Romeo and Juliet in a forbidden love. I keep telling Dave we don't want any babies so she can't be with him yet.
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Post by titchycatnipsandwich on Nov 20, 2017 13:41:21 GMT
Just to chime in that Dave might still be a Dave who has already been snipped. To River's disapproval, I upended him yesterday on your behalf and I cannot find the incision scars from his neutering. However, if he is a Daveena, then it would explain the instant love between them
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Post by moletteuk on Nov 20, 2017 15:10:49 GMT
You might be able to get a less blurry pic if you can get some brighter light, or I don't know if you could try a different camera setting or try and focus it in advance. Or even video could work.
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Post by davethedegu on Nov 20, 2017 18:29:24 GMT
Best one of Flash: Best one of Dave (Daveena);
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Post by davethedegu on Nov 20, 2017 18:30:20 GMT
Sorry they are so bad, I honestly have tried since I got back from work, they were all blurry no matter what way I did it
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Post by davethedegu on Nov 20, 2017 18:34:51 GMT
Flash: Dave:
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Post by davethedegu on Nov 20, 2017 20:56:35 GMT
I havdejust seen that they look even more blurry on PC either view on phoneor zoom out as much as you can, sorry >.<
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Post by bouncy on Nov 21, 2017 8:56:13 GMT
I can't tell with Flash at all (sorry!), but the first one of Daveena certainly does look female to me.
Hope everything goes well for Flash today!
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Post by davethedegu on Nov 21, 2017 21:45:01 GMT
Flash is home but is a lot worse then Dave was after the surgery but I guess he did have his testicals taken out. He is on his snuggle pad, he has eaten, haven't seen him drink but I did pop out for food. I'm feeling quite guilty
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Post by misscatafer on Nov 21, 2017 22:35:47 GMT
I felt exactly the same as you when Toby got neutered. Just keep the heat pad warm and keep up with his pain relief. Put it on his favourite treats to encourage eating. Toby hardly ate or drank for the first 2 or 3 days after surgery, I was do worried but then he made a full recovery. Also make sure the wheel is taken out and everything he needs to access is close by on one level to reduce the risk of tearing or over activity.
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Post by moletteuk on Nov 22, 2017 10:36:27 GMT
They can look pretty bad after a neutering. Get well soon, Flash!
Have you got favourite foods and water near the snuggle pad?
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Post by bouncy on Nov 22, 2017 11:05:55 GMT
Something I never tire of noticing is mental or physical wince that blokes have when talking about the neutering of their male pets I'm sure Flash will recover soon enough to begin his (b)romance with Dave. Just spoil him for the week, and watch him bounce back
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Post by davethedegu on Nov 22, 2017 13:50:26 GMT
Yes I have everything close to the snuggle pad and it turns out I take back the feeling of guilt and sadness because he woke me up at 5am with his bar climbing, yay. I tried putting cardboard to prevent the climbing but he just tears it down.
I felt Dave's little stitch area and noticed a hard lump either where the area is or just next to it, something new to worry about, I will be returning to the vet this evening with her... The vets will be sick of me.
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Post by davethedegu on Nov 22, 2017 13:54:02 GMT
misscatafer Do you remember how long you waited to but his wheel back in the cage after surgery?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2017 14:41:16 GMT
misscatafer Do you remember how long you waited to but his wheel back in the cage after surgery? I waited a week x
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