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Post by bouncy on Aug 19, 2017 0:36:57 GMT
I reckon you're either a goo mind reader or psychic, yasmin!
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Post by yasmin on Aug 19, 2017 0:55:10 GMT
All the best with Scaredygoo, bouncy. I unfortunately have a lot of experience with dental issues and my goos. It's different with each one but I do know each of them really well. They are human-size to me – or I'm degu-sized (not sure which one). BTW: Has anybody seen the Don Knotts movie "I Wish I Were a Fish" (just googled it and found out that it was actually called "The Incredible Mr. Limpet")? Those born in the 1960s or earlier might remember it. "Goo mind reader" – teehee
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Post by bouncy on Aug 19, 2017 0:58:39 GMT
I'm going to have to Google that!
I know what you mean. Mine are my children, not pets. They're my life, and I don't think twice if there's something they should have, even if I have to go without.
Edit: looks really cool! Will have to download and watch it sometime. Reminds me of another film that came out when I was a kid. The Waterbabies!
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Post by deguconvert on Aug 19, 2017 2:01:54 GMT
I'll have to google that too! I LOVED Don Knotts as a kid! Especially his "double-take" face. LOL!!
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Post by moletteuk on Aug 31, 2017 10:18:19 GMT
Did you see Bouncy's vit D experiment, Yasmin? Worth trying with your gang, I think!
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Post by yasmin on Sept 1, 2017 3:27:18 GMT
Yes, I will be looking into this.
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Post by yasmin on Oct 2, 2017 17:28:31 GMT
It has been 6 weeks+ since Peridot's last de-spurring. Thought it would be prudent to have her teeth checked again so I took her in today. Great news – No spurs and no developing spurs to be seen. I spoke to the vet about Vitamin D supplementation. He said that it will not help stop spur development and that there is a risk of over-supplementation; therefore, she should not be given extra Vitamin D drops. She does get a UV light and pellets and a treat that contains a bit of Vitamin D. This is what I understand: Vitamin D helps calcium bind and is necessary in the healthy development of teeth. In a situation where the degu has structural/angular teeth issues, it may help. However, there is a risk of toxicity with fat-soluble vitamins like A, D, and E. If too much is given, it is stored in the fat of vital organs; at certain levels, it becomes toxic to these organs. Therefore, in the case of spurs and where there is no indication of a structural issue and the degu is eating food that contains additive Vitamin D, the risk would caution against giving Vitamin D drops.
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Post by moletteuk on Oct 2, 2017 19:27:02 GMT
I think the unknown quantity is that degu teeth are rarely chemically analysed post morten or even post extraction, so it's difficult to say when there is absolutely no structural issue with the teeth, and some of the more specialist dental vets are still saying that too much dental disease is getting written off as genetic when there could still be a structural element. The structural element is still thought to be under-diagnosed. There is undeniably a risk to the supplementation though, so this isn't an easy or risk free thing to navigate.
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Post by yasmin on Nov 8, 2017 3:36:41 GMT
Took Peridot in to see the vet yesterday because she is selectively eating and looks kind of "squinty".
The vet removed a very large spur (he showed it to me) that was pushing her tongue to the side. I think it was coming up from underneath.
She is recovering well with the help of a little Metacam to reduce the swelling that her tongue had suffered.
Going to take Ni in tomorrow. Looks like she may have a bit of wetness around her mouth so better to have it checked out.
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Post by deguconvert on Nov 8, 2017 5:38:24 GMT
Once again, an excellent catch, Yasmin!! You ROCK!!
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Post by bouncy on Nov 8, 2017 6:59:05 GMT
Brilliant yasmin! If you're feeding pellets, I can understand why your vet suggested not offering a vitamin D supplement.
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Post by claire on Nov 14, 2017 3:45:34 GMT
My little man has started getting spurs. This is something I havecto learn I only hope I can be as good as you at catching it early. Awesome goo mummy. X
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Post by yasmin on Dec 27, 2017 0:06:21 GMT
Took Peridot in to see the vet last week because her right eye is squinty with bit of a discharge and she's been looking kind of ratty. He checked her mouth and all looks well from what he could see – just one small spur beginning but he advised against putting her under right yet because she is old fragile. The risk is not worth it. He said that the eye looks fine and that it is possible that roots might be growing upwards causing the eye issue but, again, it is not worth the risk to anesthetize her just for an x-ray to confirm this because nothing can be done for that. He said that I should bring her in again in a few weeks or so if I notice any further symptoms. So far, the eye issue is intermittent. She is in good spirits and running her wheel. She turns 8-years old this month.
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Post by deguconvert on Dec 27, 2017 7:02:24 GMT
Happy, upcoming, Birthday, Peridot!! May you have a good lot of healthy and active years ahead of you!!
I like your vet, Yasmin!
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Post by yasmin on Jan 25, 2018 4:03:14 GMT
Took Peridot in again on Monday because I saw her paw at her mouth and also to followup on that spur that was in its beginnings a month ago. That spur has grown a bit but is rounded. It is interfering a bit with the tongue but is not trapping it and, because it is round, it is not cutting in. There are also a couple of other spurs beginning but, again, my vet advised that we wait because putting her under anesthesia is too risky.
I think this is good news. It's been 11`weeks since her last spur trim.
I will keep an eye on her and bring her in again either in about a month or if I notice her drooling or having eating or other problems. When the spurs pose a real danger to her life, then the risk of anesthesia will be warranted.
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Post by misscatafer on Jan 25, 2018 8:04:09 GMT
This is so informative, thank you Yasmin. Best wishes to you and Peridot.
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Post by yasmin on Feb 15, 2018 2:00:09 GMT
Peridot did not eat the pea flake I gave her this morning, and she's been looking a bit rough (breathing a bit labored, kind of puffed up, squinting, pawing at mouth), so I took her in to the see the vet today.
The spurs were growing over her tongue. Caught them early enough – no injury to her mouth – and they have now been removed. She is still looking a bit rough and a wee bit wobbly but she is eating.
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Post by moletteuk on Feb 15, 2018 10:19:17 GMT
Hope she is feeling better soon.
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Post by deguconvert on Feb 15, 2018 16:22:33 GMT
Sending you and Peridot love and hugs!
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Post by yasmin on Apr 12, 2018 2:08:10 GMT
Took Peridot in to see the vet today just to have her teeth checked before we go on holiday. "Look Mom - No spurs!"
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