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Post by deguconvert on Oct 28, 2017 19:17:57 GMT
Degus are master sulkers!! If they had a larger bottom lip . . . oh the pouting we would see!!
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Post by degumatt on Nov 21, 2017 15:46:56 GMT
So today we did another introduction that acc went super well! I️ recorded 5 minutes of it to show you guys they seemed fairly peaceful today although had 1 little fight and they was a bit of teeth chattering anyways see for yourself (Pep is too much of a ninja and always escapes the bath) *mario is the solid tweed Degu who is the one you see me place into the bath (fudge didn’t want to come out of the cage today) Mario is the alpha Degu of him and fudge and the other 2 seem fairly similar on hierarchy however we think the white one cookie is top youtu.be/BNMbUdd25psPlease excuse our talking etc 😅
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Post by degumatt on Nov 26, 2017 22:51:20 GMT
Sad news today after another introduction all was going great until badger snook up on fudge and bit him once on his bum and fudge got really upset started fighting everything that came near him and have to cut the meeting right there 1 step forward 2 steps back Now fudge is super terrified of everything even with back in his cage the slightest movement and he runs off squeaking
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Post by deguconvert on Nov 27, 2017 1:02:30 GMT
Just give him time, he will begin to recover from his fright. So sorry Badger sneaked up on him. I would give them several days to get over before trying again.
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Post by deguconvert on Nov 27, 2017 1:04:38 GMT
OH! Come prepared to separate them quickly during the next intro. I would have a towel and water spray bottle on hand for parting them, but also have a sturdy piece of cardboard to be able to put between them if you see sneaking or anything. A firm "NO" and the cardboard between can help to train them to realize that that behavior is unacceptable.
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Post by savvy on Nov 27, 2017 1:24:50 GMT
Didn't someone on here say that a sieve/strainer, the sort with the mesh bowl and long handle, is good for isolating one after a fight? I recall something being said about them not being able to see the metal mesh and being able to stop them quickly. Just can't think who it was.
May be an idea to keep on handy for a quick and simple catch if tempers are flaring.
Sometimes it is one step forward and two back, but please persist and try again when they've cooled off.
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Post by deguconvert on Nov 27, 2017 15:07:24 GMT
Thank you for pointing that out, Savvy! The one step forward and two steps back is a condition that all who have done intros can totally identify with. Don't despair! Time, persistence, and patience are your best tools for this endeavor. Hang in there, you are doing great!
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Post by moletteuk on Nov 27, 2017 18:55:14 GMT
I think it's Titchycatnipsandwich that swears by a sieve for breaking up fights.
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Post by degumatt on Nov 27, 2017 19:21:26 GMT
Thanks for all the response guys for breaking up I’m happy to use my gloves! What would be a good meeting per week to be getttonc? And I’m leaving them for a few days to forget it hopefully
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Post by deguconvert on Nov 27, 2017 19:25:02 GMT
Sorry to be daft, Degumatt, but I'm not understanding this sentence. "What would be a good meeting per week to be getttonc?" Can you expand on what you are asking, please?
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Post by degumatt on Nov 27, 2017 22:33:09 GMT
Sorry to be daft, Degumatt, but I'm not understanding this sentence. "What would be a good meeting per week to be getttonc?" Can you expand on what you are asking, please? How often should I be letting them meet without a barrier
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Post by deguconvert on Nov 28, 2017 17:56:35 GMT
If you don't mind, I'm going to ask you some questions so that I know what you are currently doing, and that way I can make recommendations from a more knowledgeable position.
How are you doing their meets? You aren't doing the meets inside their cages, I hope? Where do you have them meet? Do you have their cages side by side so that they can meet through the bars, but not so close that they could bite each other through the bars? How long have you been working to introduce them?
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Post by degumatt on Nov 29, 2017 10:26:09 GMT
Earlier in this thread I have a video of how I’m meeting them, in there cage they share a level with glass in the middle so they can’t touch but see / smell
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Post by deguconvert on Nov 29, 2017 15:03:02 GMT
Went looking for the video . . . do you mean the one of them in the bathtub? Or do you mean that you are removing the glass barrier between their different sides of the cage for their meets?
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Post by degumatt on Nov 29, 2017 19:43:36 GMT
Went looking for the video . . . do you mean the one of them in the bathtub? Or do you mean that you are removing the glass barrier between their different sides of the cage for their meets? That’s where I do the meetings without a barrier, in there 5 layered cage on floor 3 it is divided by a glass sheet
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Post by moletteuk on Nov 30, 2017 11:28:53 GMT
I don't think you ever showed us the finished cage, degumatt. I don't think anyone has used a glass divider before, I'm wondering if a section of mesh would help them get used to the smell of each other better.
Frequency of meets depends how they are going and depends what signs you are getting at the divider. There's no point doing face to face meets where the violence escalates. You are looking for mild interest or indifference at the meeting point in the cage. Are you seeing much interaction at the glass divider?
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Post by degumatt on Nov 30, 2017 12:54:47 GMT
I don't think you ever showed us the finished cage, degumatt. I don't think anyone has used a glass divider before, I'm wondering if a section of mesh would help them get used to the smell of each other better. Frequency of meets depends how they are going and depends what signs you are getting at the divider. There's no point doing face to face meets where the violence escalates. You are looking for mild interest or indifference at the meeting point in the cage. Are you seeing much interaction at the glass divider? At the time I took the video of them in the bath they was almost no interest in each other through the glass but since it kicked off about recently they are very interested though the glass - I’ll get you guys a quick video of the cage after I’ve cleaned it out today so it’s all pretty
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Post by degumatt on Dec 6, 2017 18:24:59 GMT
Okay, so here’s a pic of the cage btw guys:
Introductions I feel are going better even though it does get quite violent badger seems to be “winning” the fights but mario isn’t playing fair getting sly scratches / bites in only teeny injury’s does that mean I stop? When like lock and roll it only lasts for a second and isn’t like constant a lot less teeth chatter then when we originally started smiled injuries on both sides (we are cleaning with saline) again only tiny cuts were talking like 0.5mm wide etc
HOWEVER once the fighting got alittle more violent I noticed lots of almost like the barking but slightly different coming from mario what does this mean? To me it seemed like he lost but doesn’t want to give up etc
Do we continue the meetings everyday? Roughly about an hour long - my dad seems to think that we’re jusy got to keep going until one backs down
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Post by deguconvert on Dec 7, 2017 5:45:22 GMT
At this point, I don't see or hear anything alarming, so I would say go ahead. I might break it up a bit though, and do two 20-30 minute meets so as not to overwhelm them.
Other thoughts people?
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Post by misscatafer on Dec 7, 2017 7:09:23 GMT
With the meets being able to last an hour without turning seriously violent, this must be a sign that things are going well! When I was trying to introduce Bella to Boo they couldn't even last 3 minutes sometimes.
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