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Post by goolover on Feb 6, 2017 20:53:36 GMT
Looks like we are through the worst DC. She is much more settled now and energetic. Have received the nebuliser and liquid I need so gonna give her ago on that starting tomorrow. Have been on night shifts so unfortunately couldn't do it earlier but we are abit more positive now. Not out of the woods but she is more comfortable now
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Post by bouncy on Feb 6, 2017 20:58:28 GMT
Excellent news!
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Post by moletteuk on Feb 6, 2017 21:10:01 GMT
Great to hear Is she responding to the baytril now? Did the vet try anything else while she was there?
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Post by goolover on Feb 6, 2017 21:49:37 GMT
No just the neb moletteuk, he advised to get her abit stronger as her chances of survival will increase. He said he just wants to feel more comfortable when he puts her under and we appreciate this. She is responding to the baytril but very slowly, still trying to clear her nose but not as often as she was so I know its working. She is not seeking heat as much. Have been putting in her hot water bottle but she isn't lying on it and just choosing to snuggle with Millie so I take this as a good sign too! Had her out before and she comes into the kitchen and gets on her hind legs waiting for me to get her feed ready, its so cute. Think she would run for cover if she knew what we were putting in with it lol. I know the loxicom is doing its job as she is still munching away quite happily. We are hoping to get the op done the back end of the week after we give her more nebulizing. To be honest, the op needs to be done sooner rather than later so kinda thinking of getting it done no matter how she seems. Don't want to prolong this more than we are already!
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Post by deguconvert on Feb 6, 2017 23:32:34 GMT
Glad to hear she has improved and you are seeing indications of continued improving. I hope that with the nebulizing, the surgery at end of week will be beyond the success you and the vet are hoping for!!
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Post by goolover on Feb 15, 2017 4:21:38 GMT
We decided to put Nina's operation off until next week as she is making slow but good progress with the home nebulising and I have had to take on extra nights this week and really cant be at work while she is recovering. Thought I would share a cute video of her having her recovery feed with her meds mixed in. Her breathing is practically back to normal. See how she hangs onto the syringe for dear life! youtu.be/bw201EZojHI
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Post by yasmin on Feb 15, 2017 4:47:45 GMT
Heartwarming. She certainly is making the most of that syringe.
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Post by deguconvert on Feb 15, 2017 5:00:15 GMT
AWWWWWWW!!!! Love it!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 8:43:14 GMT
So sweet!!!!!! 😱❤❤
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Post by moletteuk on Feb 17, 2017 11:08:57 GMT
I'm so pleased she is recovering from the infection How have you found the nebuliser? How has she coped with it, did you do the firing in face method? Did she realise it was helping her or try to run away, or both?
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Post by goolover on Feb 17, 2017 21:37:43 GMT
Cant thank you enough for your help moletteuk regarding the nebuliser x She has fought us all the way with it but she has really benefited from nightly firing to the face. Just attached the child's mask and positioned it so the vapour goes into her face. She expects it now and although she cant see she knows i'm preparing it and she runs away so I have to play hide and seek. As for how long she gets blasts for depends on her really and how long she will let me hold her for before she starts giving me warning nips. She has always been one to nip when we pick her up and hold her but she never breaks the skin so we just have to re-position the hands away from her mouth! Didn't want to wrap her as she gets very distressed so we just hold her and talk to her but your right about the awkward positions you end up in lol. We just started off with the Saline to get her used to it and then I added the F10. Afterwards she is nasily but in the morning it has cleared up. How did you learn this works and the liquid you would need? Very clever and it really works!
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Post by moletteuk on Feb 18, 2017 11:14:04 GMT
Did you try the mouthpiece (rather than the mask) just pointing at her so you don't need to pick her up or have anything touch her? The idea for it came from Edinburgh University vet centre, our vet does email referrals to them, and one time Flossie was really bad we did a referral request for advice really thinking they would give ideas or dosage to try steroids or antihistamines, but they came back recommending this first. I have to say our vet is a bit sceptical, probably more so for our Flossie because she doesn't have infection. I think the nebuliser is a useful piece of kit, there are many situations where the saline vapour filled air would be useful and no risk at all, where you would otherwise be left struggling to do a steam inhalation. There's no doubt that it helps them to shift any mucous, as long as they don't get too distressed at it shifting, I have found myself almost cheerleading at Floss to do a big snort to get rid of the snot, it doesn't seem like a automatic response for them. There is more debate and info if you do an internet search, people seem to use if for various species. The F10 seems to have some official safety approval for use in this way. Some people talk about using just distilled water. I definitely think it is worth using the saline from my own experience of nasal sprays and netty pot type things, plain water stings like hell, if you get the right salt solution you can't feel it at all, so I would think the same applies to droplets of vapour in your airways. Anyway, I'm glad you have found it helpful
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Post by goolover on Feb 18, 2017 20:05:43 GMT
More than helpful Will use the mouth piece tomorrow and see how we go with that. When we think she was gasping through her mouth and now when you look at her she breaths normal. Is on baytril to but I personally think its the duo that is helping her. Granted she seems to have a build up as the hours go by and gets a stuffy nose again but the morning after she hardly makes a sound. Know what you mean, find myself saying to her 'go on, get it up'. We have been very careful with the solution and i'm constantly watching her afterwards to make sure she is comfortable. Its a great piece of kit, would recommend to anyone if they have a snuffly goo. Lula had breathing problems for ages and was going to use it on her too but because she had her ear infection and was on antibiotics for that long, her breathing problem seems to have gone. She obviously needed a good purge of her system.
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Post by goolover on Mar 2, 2017 22:11:07 GMT
Sorry I missed the chat yesterday guys, have alot of posts to catch up on but was Nursing Nina after her operation. She is doing great now. She cant eat solids so having to syringe feed her. Have a old thickets cage from P@H so did it up and moved her and Millie by the radiator in our living room so we can see her all the time and feed her. She had spurs removed and her 2 front teeth clipped. They didn't xray, which I thought they would have and had discussed it but what the vet said is that if her breathing doesn't get better we know that there is another problem and they will xray then. It would most probably be roots growing into her nasal cavity and they couldn't do anything anyway. Was abit frustrated but I suppose we can give her time and if she fully recovers we know she doesn't have the root problem. The good sign so far though is that her breathing has improved and she isn't trying to clear her nose as much as she did before the operation. She seems more content although she is still getting used to her new teeth lol. She's such a little trooper and we are on cloud 9 that she is doing so well after being told the operation was such high risk.
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Post by ntg on Mar 2, 2017 22:37:49 GMT
It's great to hear that Nina's doing so well after her op!
Are you still using the nebuliser on her or just the baytril now? I know some people who keep a lot of rats like to keep humidifiers in the room as they help to ease breathing issues somewhat.
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Post by yasmin on Mar 3, 2017 5:00:19 GMT
She's a super trooper, indeed. Very happy that it went well. Hope she is back to eating on her own soon.
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Post by moletteuk on Mar 3, 2017 11:59:46 GMT
Sooo pleased she has come through the operation OK. Sending loads of get well vibes
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Post by goolover on Mar 3, 2017 14:43:54 GMT
Thanks guys x ntg - haven't used the neb since her operation but me and my boyfriend were discussing her cage. It is a huge wooden cage with perspex doors and I wonder now about the ventilation. Obviously it has airflow but not the type you get in a wire cage. With her being in the thickets we are wondering if her breathing has improved because of the nice airflow she is getting. Think we need to have a new purchase and give our 7 young goo's the big cage as it is wide and has 7 levels so if we add some more ventilation to it I think they will have a great time in there. Millie and Nina just rattle around in it and mainly keep to the bottom level where the wheels are so its abit of a waste.
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Post by Emziedee on Mar 3, 2017 14:46:44 GMT
Yay!
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Post by deguconvert on Mar 3, 2017 16:26:25 GMT
What wonderful news!! I wonder if you may be on to something, with the cage thing. Perhaps she has an allergy to the wood. Or it needs greater ventilation, as you said. The wood cages that I had built had bars and mesh for the doors, so the entire front, top, and portions of the sides were open, which gave great ventilation. I expect that the perspex would reduce air flow a fair amount. I guess you could do a test in a day or two, and put them back into the wood cage and see if her breathing issues reoccur.
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