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Post by fred on Dec 17, 2011 20:53:21 GMT
You can add it on the information page or just someone answer me here. What's about eggs? I was sure eggs are no-no, but now I'm checking out Jr Farm snacks suitable for degus and they have eggs in. You are right, egg should normally be a no-no. That said, they will eat the occasional bug in the wild and a I don't see a problem with a very small amount of animal protein. Which snack is it in and do they say how much?
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Post by aya0aya on Dec 18, 2011 7:33:00 GMT
No, they dont say how much, but most of them are baked treats on sticks.
I can't post link here, but if you click on products -> chinchillas, degus and then wholemeal bakery you see it. Eggs are on the third or fourth place of ingredients so I guess it's not that small amount.
Edit: you can find that in special products without grain too.
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Post by fred on Dec 19, 2011 13:32:11 GMT
I had a closer look at this product on the JR Farm site and they specifically advertise it as containing egg. I would therefore expect the amount of egg rather high and the product not suitable for degus. It seems to be a problem with JR Farm that they market quite a few of their products for too wide a range of rodents. It is therefore necessary to carefully look at the list of ingredients to determine whether a particular product is indeed suitable for degus.
One of our aims for the forthcoming feeding guide is to provide general advice “how to read ingredients lists”. This should help to weed out many of the unsuitable products. The others can then be discussed on the forum.
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Post by davx on Dec 20, 2011 4:03:18 GMT
Well JR Farm is a story I have mixed feelings. At the beginning I was happy with their food and I think quality was also better, but the recent development for me is questonable. They have so much rubbish, things I would never feed any pet (especially extrudate, pelleted food, by products etc). As Fred said, they have to much products and such a wide range of animals... unfortunately they didn't focus stronger on their herbal and natural diets the products they introduced at the beginning so sucessfully and mixed up the pet food market.
Today they are comparable with other big brands in size as well as in most other points. And it is recommended to have a deep look at the ingredients first.
That is in fact a vital issue. Ingredient lists are a point I had neglected in my texts.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2011 14:48:12 GMT
I think having a beginners and an advanced section is good, as well as having a list of the commercially available foods. Also, it is very important to point out that ingredient lists should be scrutinized, even though the product is advertised for degus. There are many people that can be fooled by the "suitable for ALL rodents" label. I got one of those products from JR from the store where I get my hemp bedding (as a free sample). It said suitable for all rodents, but I just had to take a quick look to know that it wasn't going anywhere near my degus, it was so full of sugary fruits and whatnot. As for the list of gatherable herbs, I believe it is doable. It could be made like a table, with english name, latin name and the region in which it can be gathered. At first the region part will probably be lacking, but if all of us could take a look and find out which ones are available in our own region it shouldn't take too long to have a rather comprehensive list. I have already filtered my own lists for plants that are available in Scandinavia for use on my website
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Post by malteser60 on Dec 22, 2011 19:36:38 GMT
I have a list already of plants and food items good for degus if need be. Need to add scientific name though.
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Post by davx on Dec 24, 2011 4:25:58 GMT
I also think the idea of a two-level-approach makes sense. Even for advanced owners it could be helpful to give a short recap at the end or a summary or overview introduction at the beginning.
For common species that is feasable, but for more special species it might be better to take a reference book. With access to a good library that should work.
@malteser Sounds good.
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Post by apology72 on Jan 3, 2012 0:08:27 GMT
Happy New Year to all I think the most difficult will be to offer only short information but important information. Maybe you can write a complete book about the Degu-Nutrition but too much text is rather discouraged from reading In parallel, one could craft a nutritional FAQ, with questions like (How much daily food, food feet in a bowl or scatter in the cage, etc.) which are linked in the guide only. Likewise, a plant / food ingredient FAQ, practically something like our German Degupedia only narrowly considered as the beginning. I think so the feeding guide have the most important informations an anybody who like to know more about something can use the links to became more informations. What do you think about this example? LG Apology
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