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Post by bouncy on May 18, 2020 16:21:32 GMT
I went by a query on the forum with a picture of ivy across the ground. Fred's reaction to it and others was that it was an evergreen and, although he knew little, it was totally unsuitable for degus  |
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Post by moletteuk on May 18, 2020 18:05:08 GMT
Ivy (Hedera helix) can look a bit different while it is low down and looking for somewhere to gain some height, but it's all the same and not recommended. Davx was way more experienced at natural feeding than anyone else I ever came across and was always very willing to deal in shades of grey, whereas, as you know, Fred was all about black and white. Have a look at ground ivy (Glechoma hederacea), it's a lovely little flower in the dead nettle family www.naturespot.org.uk/species/ground-ivy |
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Post by nika on May 30, 2020 10:52:50 GMT
I’m back 🙈 with more queries.
Ajuga reptans - a type of mint apparently. Looks kind of similar to ground ivy.
Argentina anserina subsp. anserina - a type of silverweed. Ive read silverweed is fine, but this variety isn’t specifically mentioned that I can find. I’m thinking it’s fine but just to err on the side of caution...
Doronicum pardalianches - leopards bane/Easter daisy.
And did we decide yay or nay on ground ivy?!
Thank you!
ETA
Cerastium tomentosum - snow in summer, a type of mouse ear chickweed.
I think that’s it, they are all things I’ve found the last week and have been saving up to ask in one post rather bombarding in separate posts.
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Post by nika on May 30, 2020 13:49:00 GMT
I never think to look on Degus International, are they still on the go? Im not sure if it’s still active per se, I don’t join in the community so I’ve never paid attention to the dates on the posts. It’s a really good source of information though, especially the plant database so I find myself referring to it regularly. |
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Post by moletteuk on May 30, 2020 20:04:22 GMT
Been busy today, will try and check tomorrow, bump if I forget.
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Post by moletteuk on May 31, 2020 11:27:03 GMT
Ground Ivy (Glech hed.) is a yes but small amounts.
Ajuga reptans should be OK.
Doronicum pardalianches I'm not finding much on this, there is one report of poisoning in pigs but nothing much else.
(Up to date name for Argentina anserina is Potentilla anserina,) to my understanding a subspecies just has a slightly different form and still falls under the umbrella of the species, so Potentilla anserina subsp anserina is safe because Potentilla anserina is safe. Just checked further and subsp anserina is the regular one anyway.
Cerastium tomentosum should be fine as the two common mouse ears are fine and the whole chickweed family is safe and unproblematic as far as I know.
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Post by nika on Jul 11, 2020 22:06:28 GMT
Hiya! I’ve got a new one  Rorippa sylvestris - creeping yellowcress. Yay or nay? |
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Post by nika on Jul 14, 2020 7:05:11 GMT
Still looking for the suitability of the plant in my last post if anyone has any advice?? Thank you x
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Post by deguconvert on Jul 14, 2020 20:12:46 GMT
I'm not the most knowledgeable of our mods for plants and safety, our moderator Moletteuk is the best one for answering, and one of our helpers Winic1 is also very knowledgeable . . . but in looking this up it says that it is in the mustard family. I'm thinking it should be safe, but I do not necessarily know what to look for to determine if it is safe. I did look at a few sites . . . but I retreated after the last one because I really did not know what I was looking at anymore. LOL
If you want to know what your degus think of it, you can try offering a very small amount fresh, and a very small amount that has been allowed to dry out. Most degus do not enjoy fresh forage, but really enjoy dried forage. Use only the very small amounts at first because A) you will be looking to see if there is any interest and B) you will also be looking to see if there are any negative effects from it. You want to make sure that it is a very small amount because you want to limit how severe any potential negative effects could be when it is unknown if the plant is safe. You need to wait 3-5 days to be sure you see nothing, and then you offer it a second time (same small amount) to see what a second exposure does. Or if your degu will even be interested in it.
Hopefully one of the two ladies mentioned will be on an able to help out.
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Post by bouncy on Jul 14, 2020 23:09:41 GMT
According to the DIC, rorippa species are safe.
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Post by nika on Jul 15, 2020 11:05:06 GMT
According to the DIC, rorippa species are safe. I picked it because it looked almost exactly like something else I pick that I know is safe, but because it had a few Small cosmetic differences, I ID’d it. When I googled it with degus I couldn’t find any hits. So I appreciate the advice, thank you! |
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Post by moletteuk on Jul 15, 2020 15:33:43 GMT
Rorippa are notoriously difficult to ID along with most of the twiddly yellow brassicas, but non of the brassicas are toxic, so you are fine.
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Post by yoelle on Aug 5, 2020 6:02:13 GMT
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Post by moletteuk on Aug 5, 2020 8:46:17 GMT
Yes.
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Dedenne will be my profile pic until I can get some actual degus. I guess it looks a bit like a goo?
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Post by pbbdegu on Mar 17, 2021 23:21:10 GMT
Found a new forage blend, want to know if it is safe.
Calendula, Chamomile, Dandelion Leaf, Dandelion Root, Elder Flower, Flaxseed Powder, Goldenrod, Hawthorn Leaf, Hibiscus Flower, Lavender, Milk Thistle Powder, Nettle, Oat Groats, Green Oat Tops, Plantain, Raspberry Leaf, Red Clover Flower, Rosehips, Rose Petals, Strawberry Leaf
Also, there are blueberry and arbutus bushes in my backyard. Can I feed the leaves, flowers, woody parts etc.
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Post by deguconvert on Mar 19, 2021 0:16:33 GMT
I don't think arbutus is safe. Not sure about Blueberry . . . though I think it should be.
The forage blend . . . I think the only thing that I am uncertain about in there is the Lavender. Everything else I think is good . . . but Moletteuk would be better able to answer fully and accurately.
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Dedenne will be my profile pic until I can get some actual degus. I guess it looks a bit like a goo?
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Post by pbbdegu on Mar 19, 2021 0:24:38 GMT
I looked it up on a different forum and it turns out that lavender is safe, arbutus wood is safe, and degus can have blueberry leaves and shoots sparingly.
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Post by moletteuk on Mar 19, 2021 11:27:54 GMT
The forage mix is OK. I'm a bit surprised at the inclusion of elderflowers, but small amounts should be fine, the powdered seeds are very unlikely to be eaten and the oat groats are not ideal but you can pick them out and use them for treats.
Bluebery and arbutus are fine.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2021 8:15:31 GMT
Hello, i have an areca dypsis lutescens, is it safe if i create toys for them from the leaves ?
Thank you !
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Post by moletteuk on Sept 26, 2021 9:55:43 GMT
Dypsis lutescens doesn't seem to have any toxic components and is widely reported as safe for pets, so it should be safe to use.
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