gabba
Warbling Degu
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Post by gabba on Oct 11, 2022 17:17:54 GMT
Me again. Me and my boyfriend bought two degus 2022 april 11th One is a boy other is a girl. For more context: When we bought them, the girl who gave us them, had to chase one of them. She said it was two boys. So the one she had to chase, was super mad and scared (pregnant girl).. In first months Gaara was so lovely, always loved being held. And Gogu (girl) was scared. But only after a month we realized Gogu is not a boy, and pregnant.... Boy has been neutered. Now the girl is kinda always angry, she makes those noises. But now she loves to be held, but doesn't really like being peted. Gaara almost never comes for attention... He hides.. At first I thought its because he was mad at me, because I had to held him when vet stuck a needle in him... Later I tooks babies away, whom he loved more then anything... But between first birth and neutering was 2weeks apart. So she became pregnant again.... While she was pregnant it seemed Gaara was himself again.... Now we kept one baby girl, we had big cage. But now, I took two baby boys from him again and he is distend again... So now my question is: 1. Is it normal that my girl is angry, but still lovely... When before she was super scared...
2. Is it normal for my boy to act this way, because I took his kids, and is he mad at me?
It was hard to put him back to the cage before, because he loved being held...Like few days ago, he came, when i opened the cage. Whay I usually do, I put them in my shoulder and close the cage. While I was closing the cage (from the side of a cage, not top) he tried to jump back in... But sadly cage was closed, so he hit the cahe and fell like half a meter (20inch). He was sacred, I know how make them they calm down. And for all of them is a different thing.. i tried to look it up, but I can't find anything useful. So I gave all information is needed... i hope 😄 Please help.. Dad loves his daughter named Katara more then a mom. When I get my computer fixed, I will post some pictures with dad and daughter. I took them with a camera, so I can't post until I get my computer fixed ![]() ![]() |
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Post by teemu on Oct 11, 2022 19:48:11 GMT
Hey there, I remember you from the earlier thread, with the situation with multiple accidental litters due to confusion over genders and all that. I'm not totally clear on this: Is your boy living with the females again (now that he's neutered), or is he alone? This can affect his behavior. It sounds like you are worried about their behaviors now, since they've changed? It's normal for the personalities of degus to change over time, especially when they're growing up. The pup situation, as well as the fact that there are more degus in the house now, can also affect this. They could all still be worked up over things, it could be related to their puberties (I remember that they were quite young) or they are stressed and confused over degus being born and degus leaving. But this is not a permanent source of distress, I can assure you! As things calm down, your degus will calm down as well. It just sounds like things have been changing so rapidly that your degus don't know what to make of it. I can't say for certain if they'll go back to the way they were. Degus behave very differently depending on how many other degus are around (degus that are lonely get really fixated on their owners, for example), and as they grow up. But I can say that nothing you've described sounds like it's a reason to be scared for them. Just keep observing how they're behaving, and keep an eye out for situations like somebody being bullied because the dynamics have changed or similar, and keep things mostly steady. It should all work out  |
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gabba
Warbling Degu
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Post by gabba on Oct 12, 2022 9:16:08 GMT
Hey there, I remember you from the earlier thread, with the situation with multiple accidental litters due to confusion over genders and all that. I'm not totally clear on this: Is your boy living with the females again (now that he's neutered), or is he alone? This can affect his behavior. It sounds like you are worried about their behaviors now, since they've changed? It's normal for the personalities of degus to change over time, especially when they're growing up. The pup situation, as well as the fact that there are more degus in the house now, can also affect this. They could all still be worked up over things, it could be related to their puberties (I remember that they were quite young) or they are stressed and confused over degus being born and degus leaving. But this is not a permanent source of distress, I can assure you! As things calm down, your degus will calm down as well. It just sounds like things have been changing so rapidly that your degus don't know what to make of it. I can't say for certain if they'll go back to the way they were. Degus behave very differently depending on how many other degus are around (degus that are lonely get really fixated on their owners, for example), and as they grow up. But I can say that nothing you've described sounds like it's a reason to be scared for them. Just keep observing how they're behaving, and keep an eye out for situations like somebody being bullied because the dynamics have changed or similar, and keep things mostly steady. It should all work out They live in the same cage. My boy is always loving with two girls. Mom degu likes to show dominece. Boy always was so loving, like being pet and held. Now he just runs away... I think ait might be cuz of babies being taken away. He loves his kids so much.. So we thought and decided to keep one baby girl. They don't fight alot. Just sometimes when they are playing, and we only hear mom being angry. Although mom is always angry, she loves being held, sometimes when boy comes to be held, she would grabb his tail and pull away so she could be held |
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Post by moletteuk on Oct 12, 2022 11:25:54 GMT
I think if it's happening then it's normal for your degus. They have experienced a massive amount of changes in their lifetime and they have also been growing and maturing in that time so there are lots of reasons for changes to occur in their behaviour.
I think the best way to figure it out is to continue what you are doing watching them and trying to piece things together from the signs that they give. From what you describe it sounds likely that dad has been quite deeply affected by the removal of his offspring, while I wouldn't say this seems to happen frequently, it seems pefectly reasonable and possible. Perhaps the changes in Gogu are related to the changes in Gaara and she is angry and upset that her partner is distressed, or maybe she is annoyed that Gaara pays more attention to their daughter. Don't underestimate the complexities of their feelings and social relationships.
Most degus don't enjoy being held or petted even when there is a good relationship with their human.
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gabba
Warbling Degu
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Post by gabba on Oct 12, 2022 15:46:35 GMT
I think if it's happening then it's normal for your degus. They have experienced a massive amount of changes in their lifetime and they have also been growing and maturing in that time so there are lots of reasons for changes to occur in their behaviour. I think the best way to figure it out is to continue what you are doing watching them and trying to piece things together from the signs that they give. From what you describe it sounds likely that dad has been quite deeply affected by the removal of his offspring, while I wouldn't say this seems to happen frequently, it seems pefectly reasonable and possible. Perhaps the changes in Gogu are related to the changes in Gaara and she is angry and upset that her partner is distressed, or maybe she is annoyed that Gaara pays more attention to their daughter. Don't underestimate the complexities of their feelings and social relationships. Most degus don't enjoy being held or petted even when there is a good relationship with their human. Before Gaara enjoyed being held and sometimes it was impossible to put him back to their cage. Nor roles reversed.. Gogu always wants attention and loves being held, and Gaara doesn't like it anymore. Unless Ihave snacks for them. But the way they asm for more is the cutest thing ever. Sometimes it seems they are dogs not degus. How mutch I have seen every degu is so different (personalities). |
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Post by moletteuk on Oct 12, 2022 18:27:21 GMT
It can be that the more a degu is fulfilled in their degu relationships, the less they want attention from their human. I think that could be what you are experiencing, so it's not really about their relationship with you, so no reflection on your behaviour or really how they feel about you, more a side effect of their fulfillment elsewhere. Bribery with treats is always a great way forward!
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Post by teemu on Oct 12, 2022 19:31:52 GMT
It can be that the more a degu is fulfilled in their degu relationships, the less they want attention from their human. I think that could be what you are experiencing, so it's not really about their relationship with you, so no reflection on your behaviour or really how they feel about you, more a side effect of their fulfillment elsewhere. Bribery with treats is always a great way forward!
I have noticed this with degus, and other animals as well. All degus that I've had that were alone for some time became very dependent on humans. But as soon as they get back in with others, they quickly realize that they don't need a human to cuddle. It's just normal and how it is, and I think ultimately much healthier for them.
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