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Post by darthchinchi on Jul 20, 2021 17:44:55 GMT
Hi. I needed to cut down some of my cutleaf blackberry with out thorns. I was wondering if my chinnies can have these. I know they can have blackberry and this does seem to be the same family  |
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Post by deguconvert on Jul 20, 2021 18:39:58 GMT
I have absolutely no idea. Moletteuk . . . you are so good with plant knowledge, can you tell us about this plant?
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Post by darthchinchi on Jul 20, 2021 18:43:35 GMT
Just to clarify. I used Google lence to identify the species. I know it's blackberry but with out thorns as I specifically bought them to have blackberries in my garden both I and the kids can pick with out looking like someone whos been in a scratch fight. moletteuk can you help me out |
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Post by deguconvert on Jul 20, 2021 18:45:51 GMT
I had no idea there were blackberries WITHOUT thorns! That is AWESOME. If they would grow in my area, I would be so interested!! I believe we are too high in altitude, too dry, and too cold in the winter. However . . . I should look them up!
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Post by darthchinchi on Jul 20, 2021 18:49:53 GMT
I dont know what these places are called in english, but I got them from a shop that only sells live plantes, seeds and anything to do with plantes. They are quite easy to come by here and it grows just like normal blackberry - all over the place. I haven't seen them to that horrif thing where they hit the dirt with one end and start sprouting new roots though. The best thing about them is the berries are sweeter than normal blackberries
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Post by deguconvert on Jul 20, 2021 18:56:32 GMT
I am VERY intrigued!
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Post by moletteuk on Jul 20, 2021 19:05:36 GMT
As far as I can see it should be OK. Nothing is coming up for toxicity and it seems to be included as part of the rubus aggregate of species, so it can't be that different. I would do your own little test just to make sure. @dc Regular blackberry Rubus fruticosus comes in thornless horticultural versions too, they are easily available in UK anyway. The leaves are really pretty in Darth's one though  |
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Post by darthchinchi on Jul 20, 2021 19:07:26 GMT
As far as I can see it should be OK. Nothing is coming up for toxicity and it seems to be included as part of the rubus aggregate of species, so it can't be that different. I would do your own little test just to make sure. @dc Regular blackberry Rubus fruticosus comes in thornless horticultural versions too, they are easily available in UK anyway. The leaves are really pretty in Darth's one though Are you thinking giving them a small amount to see if they will eat them or not? |
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Post by moletteuk on Jul 20, 2021 19:13:31 GMT
Yes, give a small amount, see if they eat it, if they do, wait 24hrs, and if all is OK carry on with it as normal.
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Post by darthchinchi on Jul 20, 2021 23:49:10 GMT
I was just told there's a lot of tannin acid in the leaves, so now I kinda don't want to give any more of it to them
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Post by moletteuk on Jul 21, 2021 19:43:04 GMT
All blackberry leaves are high in tannins, so I think it depends whether they are used to eating any kind of blackberry leaves? If you are unsure, just leave them, or you could dry some so you can feed in small quantities.
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Post by darthchinchi on Jul 21, 2021 20:00:19 GMT
They are somewhat used to them. But only leafs. I got unsure about the stems and just tossed them. I might use them as treats in the future but not in big quantities
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