Post by smlmamlgirl on Aug 25, 2005 5:44:54 GMT
Oxford Canadian Dictionary: Euthanasia: an act of PAINLESSLY killing a person or animal suffering from an incurable condition.
This (above) was what I sought- a guarantee with no risk of failure or pain.
I would have responded on the original thread I had started, but somehow my option of replying was hindered either by my own software or other's programming methods. I must admit I am affronted by both responses, although I have the greatest respect for both of the senior members of this forum.
Death is a natural, although greatly unknown state. People hunt, they slip a couple of aspirin into a dog's dish, they have tragic accidents and they die of natural causes. It is the choice of every person, no matter what the country's law (in my opinion) to die in whichever manner they see fit and have control over. What Humane Societies, PETA and animal rescue organisations around the world state is 'that we must speak for those who cannot speak for themselves'. So if that is true, if we are to advocate for our pets as we would advocate for ourselves, then where would you want to die? I spent 3 years putting animals down under a vet's orders just because no one wanted them anymore...I would never wish that sort of stainless steele, amoniac, sharp ended death for an animal I love. I would never want to remember them that way- it is an offense to the liveliness and amusement they lent me in their better times.
I wrote my previous article out of a desperation for a solution. True, money is tight, but truly, having been party to so many animal deaths due to human negligence, knowing the system so horribly intimately....I wouldn't wish that on her if I were a millionaire. And (emotion expressed, offense not meant) judging that I may be negligent or irresponsible because I own pets and am in a position not to afford a veterinarian for euthansia is not your place. You don't know my position, you haven't asked, and I haven't shared. I have considered this forum to be a great resource, have considered some I have conversed with friends....and now.....I question that.
Less than a century ago abortion was illegal, still is in some places. (groan from readers: oh what a terrible upheaval this will cause....or not if you are open-minded) The government thought that if they banned it- for health reasons, distasteful reasons, religious reasons, that it would go away, that it would stop. Instead (please do not read this sentence if you have an active imagination) back alley abortions with unsterilized equipment, amateurs and coat hangers came into existence. And for once, both sides of the argument ceased their fighting (pro-life and pro-choice) and agreed that a much greater evil had been born, one much more dangerous than they either agreed or disagreed with. And thus the debate began.
Denial of information, and judgement of one who seeks it drives the person that trusted your consultation into the arms of someone perhaps less qualified than you. It would have helped if you had said " this is an option, but I don't agree with it, I think a professional would be better." I could have accepted that gracefully......but a shutdown of the thread? A stark judgement? I have tried to convey every bit of helpful information I have onto this site, and to ask questions of my own from owners more seasoned than I.
Somewhere along the line it became accepted that taking the horse out behind the shed, or sending an animal to the "glue factory" were acceptable means of the destruction of animals. Argue, debate, despise me for my opinion, but if I can give a mistreated, physically pained animal that I rescued an aspirin and let it slowly fall asleep in my hands, at home, where evrything smells right to her.....well, I don't see the cause for judgement. Veterinary clinics most certainly have their place, but they are sad place for death unless you have no choice or no time. The animals know, I saw it in their eyes for too many years.
I have no doubt THIS time that what I have written is both powerful and upsetting. I understand that it may get me banned from this site, which may be appropriate given that I am public with this piece and not scrabbling furtively back and forth privately with other members in personal mail. But I consider honesty one of my greatest character traits, and so I have flexed it. But before I sign off, perhaps permanently depending on the powers that be....if what I wrote was so unforgiveable and unthinkable, then why was it read 19 times in less than 24 hours? Perhaps I'm not the only one that needs the answer.
Gandhi's quote: "The greatness of a society and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals, but have we really taken the time to think about what that means?"
Sadly, and turning to other resources,
Smlmamlgirl
This (above) was what I sought- a guarantee with no risk of failure or pain.
I would have responded on the original thread I had started, but somehow my option of replying was hindered either by my own software or other's programming methods. I must admit I am affronted by both responses, although I have the greatest respect for both of the senior members of this forum.
Death is a natural, although greatly unknown state. People hunt, they slip a couple of aspirin into a dog's dish, they have tragic accidents and they die of natural causes. It is the choice of every person, no matter what the country's law (in my opinion) to die in whichever manner they see fit and have control over. What Humane Societies, PETA and animal rescue organisations around the world state is 'that we must speak for those who cannot speak for themselves'. So if that is true, if we are to advocate for our pets as we would advocate for ourselves, then where would you want to die? I spent 3 years putting animals down under a vet's orders just because no one wanted them anymore...I would never wish that sort of stainless steele, amoniac, sharp ended death for an animal I love. I would never want to remember them that way- it is an offense to the liveliness and amusement they lent me in their better times.
I wrote my previous article out of a desperation for a solution. True, money is tight, but truly, having been party to so many animal deaths due to human negligence, knowing the system so horribly intimately....I wouldn't wish that on her if I were a millionaire. And (emotion expressed, offense not meant) judging that I may be negligent or irresponsible because I own pets and am in a position not to afford a veterinarian for euthansia is not your place. You don't know my position, you haven't asked, and I haven't shared. I have considered this forum to be a great resource, have considered some I have conversed with friends....and now.....I question that.
Less than a century ago abortion was illegal, still is in some places. (groan from readers: oh what a terrible upheaval this will cause....or not if you are open-minded) The government thought that if they banned it- for health reasons, distasteful reasons, religious reasons, that it would go away, that it would stop. Instead (please do not read this sentence if you have an active imagination) back alley abortions with unsterilized equipment, amateurs and coat hangers came into existence. And for once, both sides of the argument ceased their fighting (pro-life and pro-choice) and agreed that a much greater evil had been born, one much more dangerous than they either agreed or disagreed with. And thus the debate began.
Denial of information, and judgement of one who seeks it drives the person that trusted your consultation into the arms of someone perhaps less qualified than you. It would have helped if you had said " this is an option, but I don't agree with it, I think a professional would be better." I could have accepted that gracefully......but a shutdown of the thread? A stark judgement? I have tried to convey every bit of helpful information I have onto this site, and to ask questions of my own from owners more seasoned than I.
Somewhere along the line it became accepted that taking the horse out behind the shed, or sending an animal to the "glue factory" were acceptable means of the destruction of animals. Argue, debate, despise me for my opinion, but if I can give a mistreated, physically pained animal that I rescued an aspirin and let it slowly fall asleep in my hands, at home, where evrything smells right to her.....well, I don't see the cause for judgement. Veterinary clinics most certainly have their place, but they are sad place for death unless you have no choice or no time. The animals know, I saw it in their eyes for too many years.
I have no doubt THIS time that what I have written is both powerful and upsetting. I understand that it may get me banned from this site, which may be appropriate given that I am public with this piece and not scrabbling furtively back and forth privately with other members in personal mail. But I consider honesty one of my greatest character traits, and so I have flexed it. But before I sign off, perhaps permanently depending on the powers that be....if what I wrote was so unforgiveable and unthinkable, then why was it read 19 times in less than 24 hours? Perhaps I'm not the only one that needs the answer.
Gandhi's quote: "The greatness of a society and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals, but have we really taken the time to think about what that means?"
Sadly, and turning to other resources,
Smlmamlgirl
