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Post by jolil1072 on Jan 24, 2017 14:42:25 GMT
Hi all It's me again. Put my son to bed last night to find Pikachu with a head tilt and what look like a runny eye. This morning checked on them again and the runny eye has gone but the head tilt remains but not as bad as it was last night. She is eating and drinking fine. I've got a vets appointment for tomorrow morning. I'm just wondering if any of you come across this before? Video attached youtu.be/prOP_OC7NRM |
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Post by randomname on Jan 24, 2017 15:10:52 GMT
Hi  sounds like it may be dental, probably a good idea to get them checked at the vets tomorrow, especially the very back. Could also be an ear infection. Found this old thread deguworld.proboards.com/thread/16811 might be helpful? How is your vet with degus? do they have much experience? |
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Post by bouncy on Jan 24, 2017 15:19:03 GMT
Ditto the teeth. Given the eye, I'd also ask for an xray of the roots.
Is he eating OK? Is there anything he's struggling with, or has he lost weight?
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Post by jolil1072 on Jan 24, 2017 15:21:33 GMT
She is quite happily nibbling away on the chews and eatting normally.
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Post by bouncy on Jan 24, 2017 15:27:17 GMT
OK, could also be ear related. I'm sure your vet will suss it out. If they feel along the jaw and say 'no root problems here's, I'd take t with a pinch of salt. My general vet said that, but the problems were all with the upper jaw.
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Post by randomname on Jan 24, 2017 15:31:48 GMT
It is possible to get abscesses in the root of the tooth, inside the gum. It could be hurting, but not preventing her eat. The vet wouldn't be able to see it without xrays. If there isn't a more obvious cause when she gets examined I'd look at xrays too, better sooner rather than later with stuff like that. It is quite a pronounced head tilt, so it should become obvious pretty quickly if it gets better with treatment. She is a beautiful little thing, looks a healthy size & weight, but I'd definitely weigh her & check she's not just stashed all her food (sometimes they do that rather than eating it if it hurts) Not much you can do until vet sees her I think, just keep an eye on her, maybe give her a snugglepad if you have one?
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Post by moletteuk on Jan 24, 2017 16:28:05 GMT
Upper dental, ear infection or stroke are the usual options for this.
Weigh her today if you have never done it before and then you have a reference point for in a few days time, a digital kitchen scale is best, try and weigh at the same time of day.
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Post by deguconvert on Jan 24, 2017 21:15:12 GMT
I'm thinking upper dental, ear infection, or stroke as well. Stroke is scary, but that doesn't mean she must be euthanized. It does mean it could happen again, but she can have a good life yet, and she could live a long time.
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Post by jolil1072 on Jan 24, 2017 22:28:01 GMT
Checked on her as soon as I got in from work. She is lively enough and ate a couple of petals off my hand and tucked into some hay and degu nuggets. Baby Serena licked her near where her eye was weeping. I hope the vet can make her better. She was a brilliant Auntie to the babies and I would hate anything to happen to her.
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Post by moletteuk on Jan 25, 2017 11:12:04 GMT
It can only be good that she seems otherwise quite well. Let us know how you get on at the vets.
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Post by jolil1072 on Jan 25, 2017 11:58:28 GMT
She's at the vets. Having an x ray teeth removal if necessary and antibiotics. Just hope the little mite gets through the anaesthetic. Please keep your fingers crossed.
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Post by bouncy on Jan 25, 2017 12:17:58 GMT
We're keeping our fingers crossed!
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Post by jolil1072 on Jan 25, 2017 19:31:31 GMT
She is home 😊 the X ray didn't show anything. Her teeth had overgrown and they corrected that. She is on Metacam and Baytril. She has to go back in 10 days times. Definitely got an infected gum no sign of infection in her ear. Not sure whether the gum infection has caused the head tilt. It's a case of wait and see. She has eaten and drank since she got home. That's a good sign I guess. Please keep your fingers crossed.
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Post by moletteuk on Jan 25, 2017 20:14:50 GMT
Great that she is home safe I suppose it's wait and see at this point to see if the baytril helps the head tilt. Are you familiar with lots of forage in the diet and plenty of calcium for degus with dental issues? Check out our feeding guide anyway: deguworld.proboards.com/thread/16425/degu-feeding-guide |
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Post by jolil1072 on Jan 25, 2017 20:42:57 GMT
Great that she is home safe I suppose it's wait and see at this point to see if the baytril helps the head tilt. Are you familiar with lots of forage in the diet and plenty of calcium for degus with dental issues? Check out our feeding guide anyway: deguworld.proboards.com/thread/16425/degu-feeding-guideThank you for that information. I do feed JR Meadow and a couple of their mixes mixed in. I will now add oil seeds to the mix. They also get twigs to chew on and dried dandelion root. Oil seeds will be definitely part of the diet of their daily diet. Think it's going to be fun trying to catch her and medicate her though. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. |
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Post by moletteuk on Jan 25, 2017 21:01:12 GMT
Have a look at the bought forage thread too deguworld.proboards.com/thread/15657/bought-herb-leaf-flower-mixes?page=1 and fresh forage can be particularly good for dental issue goos too. Have you medicated before, do you know if she will take any of it disguised on treats? Tiny pieces of shredded wheat are great because it soaks in, but baytril can be hard to disguise, it tastes pretty bad. Dried veg or bits of nut, or pure nut butter can help, try any of her favourites. You may have to bite the bullet and syringe feed the meds to be sure she is getting the full dose at the right time. Most of us find it's easiest if you use a towel or towel sized fleece fabric or similar. Grab her with the towel or you may be able to trick her onto the towel a couple of times maybe with a tube. Then bundle her up, try and get a good hold around the shoulders so she can't move forwards, and wrap the towel round her so she feels secure and can't move her legs so much. Get all the meds ready in advance, squirt in slightly sideways just behind the incisors, follow up with a little bit of water if you can. Give her a treat after as a bit of an apology. If she's a biter or turns into a biter, you might find leather or cut proof gloves useful for the holding hand. |
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Post by bouncy on Jan 25, 2017 21:14:45 GMT
Woohoo!
Just to put your mind at rest, intensive jaw pain can radiate out and feel like ear ache. No promises, but you may find that the head tilt settles as the pain does. Will take a few doses before the pain meds get totally on top of it (like chronic human pain and pain meds/anti inflammatories.
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Post by jolil1072 on Jan 25, 2017 21:27:29 GMT
She has just tucked into some fennel seeds and a bit of star anise that I found in the cupboard. Dandelion leaves from the garden and cabbage as well as hay. She is quite active and socialising with the others so that is a good sign.
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Post by bouncy on Jan 25, 2017 21:55:56 GMT
Excellent news! Obviously not phased by the dentist!
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Post by deguconvert on Jan 25, 2017 22:37:39 GMT
WOO HOO!! Well done! Sounds like she is making a champion recovery.
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