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Post by Bexi87 on Oct 5, 2015 19:33:41 GMT
Yay! Got everything crossed for you Chloe!
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Post by deguconvert on Oct 5, 2015 21:14:19 GMT
That's good news! Have you stopped squirming and feeling crawly skin now?
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Post by animalmadchloe on Oct 6, 2015 7:28:16 GMT
That's good news! Have you stopped squirming and feeling crawly skin now? Yes getting there still being super clean though but i am relaxing a bit now after their second treatment I might let them out for a fly xx
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Post by animalmadchloe on Dec 8, 2015 8:40:42 GMT
I think the mites / lice are back birds have been itchy this week and so have we bought a recommended spot on from the budgie forum so fingers crossed!
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Post by winic1 on Dec 8, 2015 13:27:55 GMT
Join this facebook group, Finchaholics. It is actually for any pet birds, not just finches. The woman who runs it is very strict on keeping discussions strictly related to birds (doesn't like other chitchat), but she and the group are an amazing wealth of information, and they can help you with medicines, disinfectants, dosages, etc. www.facebook.com/groups/118310754916769/Then, you also want to contact Terri Gennaccaro who owns/runs the following website, she sells all kinds of bird stuff, but more importantly, she can help you diagnose, choose the right medicines & disinfectants, help you figure out how to wipe this out once and for all. I don't know if she can/would ship to you, but she might know where you could get stuff locally if she can't. Her website is full of health and medication information, that alone is worth a look. www.glamgouldians.com
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Post by animalmadchloe on Dec 8, 2015 14:26:42 GMT
Join this facebook group, Finchaholics. It is actually for any pet birds, not just finches. The woman who runs it is very strict on keeping discussions strictly related to birds (doesn't like other chitchat), but she and the group are an amazing wealth of information, and they can help you with medicines, disinfectants, dosages, etc. www.facebook.com/groups/118310754916769/Then, you also want to contact Terri Gennaccaro who owns/runs the following website, she sells all kinds of bird stuff, but more importantly, she can help you diagnose, choose the right medicines & disinfectants, help you figure out how to wipe this out once and for all. I don't know if she can/would ship to you, but she might know where you could get stuff locally if she can't. Her website is full of health and medication information, that alone is worth a look. www.glamgouldians.comExcellent thank you!!!
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Post by Bexi87 on Dec 8, 2015 17:41:27 GMT
Oh no, my heart dropped when I saw this thread was active again AMC. Fingers crossed its nothing major!
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Post by animalmadchloe on Dec 8, 2015 17:49:41 GMT
Oh no, my heart dropped when I saw this thread was active again AMC. Fingers crossed its nothing major! I think I've caught it early I haven't actually seen any mites as of yet but the birds have bee scratching and making them selves bleed a little I found a couple tubes rhe vet prescribed a few months ago so everyone's had a dose :-) and I've ordered another 6 monthly spot on that all the budgie keepers on the budgie forum use. Wish I'd ordered it sooner now lol xx
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Post by bouncy on Dec 8, 2015 23:51:24 GMT
Fingers crossed for you AMC
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Post by animalmadchloe on Dec 9, 2015 18:47:55 GMT
Fingers crossed for you AMC @wince01 bouncy Bexi87 I'm yet to find any mites. At all. Even been putting white paper and white sheets in and over the cage which is what i did b4 Nd they seemed to be drawn to the white. But there has been nothing on them at all. Nothing crawling in the cage either. It's weird there both scratching which is making us itchy lol. I gave them a spray with warm water earlier they enjoyed that.
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Post by winic1 on Dec 9, 2015 21:50:58 GMT
If they're scratching, they likely have mites, just not so many that they're crawling off the birds yet.
Along with treating the birds themselves, you need to clean and treat the cages, getting into all the seams and cracks and everywhere, so that eggs don't remain to hatch later on and start another infestation. Also, continue to treat the birds regularly even long after the infestation seems to be gone, so that you wipe out any new hatchings before they can start to multiply again. you may not notice symptoms if 5 or 10 new mites hatch, but when they lay eggs and then in a few weeks hundreds hatch, and then thousands, you are facing another massive infestation again.
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Post by animalmadchloe on Dec 9, 2015 22:04:44 GMT
If they're scratching, they likely have mites, just not so many that they're crawling off the birds yet. Along with treating the birds themselves, you need to clean and treat the cages, getting into all the seams and cracks and everywhere, so that eggs don't remain to hatch later on and start another infestation. Also, continue to treat the birds regularly even long after the infestation seems to be gone, so that you wipe out any new hatchings before they can start to multiply again. you may not notice symptoms if 5 or 10 new mites hatch, but when they lay eggs and then in a few weeks hundreds hatch, and then thousands, you are facing another massive infestation again. I do boil wash every thing in their cage and all the toys and do boiled water over the cage, maybe I need to get a better disinfectant?
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Post by winic1 on Dec 9, 2015 22:08:28 GMT
I believe you can get a spray, the same stuff you put on the birds, that is safe to spray into the seams of the cage. I will ask my bird people and see if I can get info for you.
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Post by animalmadchloe on Dec 9, 2015 22:29:04 GMT
I believe you can get a spray, the same stuff you put on the birds, that is safe to spray into the seams of the cage. I will ask my bird people and see if I can get info for you. Lovely thank you I'm yet to have any reply on the budgie forum lol its so annoying I've been so so Careful with making sure I'm cleaning every day and boil washing the cage every 2 days really don't need this leading up to xmas
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Post by winic1 on Dec 11, 2015 4:03:20 GMT
you really should request to join the facebook site "Finchaholics", (do you do Facebook?) because Cindy who runs it has so much info at hand. But here, I'm hoping I can copy all this over to here, this is what she has come up with so far: Cindy Fox Moore- I know people that use steam, very hot. The walls, base boards cages need to be done. Can she get AIL in England... Avian Insect Liquidator? Cindy Fox Moore- she needs to look for a product with an IGR in it www.facebook.com/notes/finchaholics-finches-hookbills-softbills-canaries-are-welcome-here/information-on-avian-insect-liquidator-and-igrs-insect-growth-regulator/664767323604440 Insect Growth Regulator can be found in spray, bomb/fogger forms . www.unitedpharmacies-uk.md/Avian_Insect_Liquidator ... Avian Insect Liquidator (Permethrin/Piperonyl Butoxide/Methoprene) - 1.25g/6.25g/20mg (500mL) ::... unitedpharmacies-uk.md Cindy Fox Moore edited a doc in the group: Finchaholics ~ finches, hookbills, softbills & canaries are welcome here! July 29, 2014 · Information on Avian Insect Liquidator and IGRs (Insect Growth Regulator) By Cindy Fox Moore on Tuesday, July 29, 2014 at 12:47pm Info on Avian Insect Liquidator .... Method of Application Apply as a fine spray to the bird until feathers are dampened. Birds may be dipped in an A.I.L. solution (e.g. Pigeons and Poultry), if more convenient. Liberally spray the cage and surrounds. Bird rooms, aviaries and feed storage areas should be sprayed or fogged (using an electronic fogger) with A.I.L. to reduce population of lice, mites, flies, mosquitoes, fodder mite and mealy moth. A.I.L. is an extremely safe and effective water based insecticide and insect growth regulator for birds, mammals. The three way action of A.I.L. provides an instant kill of insects and a six week residual action against reinfection. The insect growth regulator (IGR) prevents the development of immature insects thus providing prolonged protection. A.I.L. should be used as a routine part of aviary management to prevent insect borne disease, reduce tapeworm intermediate hosts and prevent feed spoilage. A.I.L. is safe if ingested, so feed and water do not need to be removed during treatment. There are no known side effects of A.I.L. in avian species. It has been widely used on avians at all stages of growth and development. NB: Toxic to Fish. Do not contaminate aquariums or waterways ................................................................................................................................................................. AIL contains a IGR (Insect Growth Regulator) ...here is how IGRs work: As an insect grows, it undergoes a process called molting, where it grows a new exoskeleton under its old one and then sheds to allow the new one to swell to a new size and harden. IGRs prevent an insect from reaching maturity by interfering with the molting process. This in turn curbs infestations because immature insects cannot reproduce. Because IGRs work by interfering with an insect's molting process, they take longer to kill than traditional insecticides. Death typically occurs within 3 to 10 days, depending on the product, the insect's life stage when the product is applied and how quickly the insect develops. Some IGRs cause insects to stop feeding long before they die. Hormonal IGRs Hormonal IGRs typically work by mimicking or inhibiting the juvenile hormone (JH), one of the two major hormones involved in insect molting. IGRs can also inhibit the other hormone, ecdysone, large peaks of which trigger the insect to molt. If JH is present at the time of molting, the insect molts into a larger larval form; if absent, it molts into a pupa or adult. IGRs that mimic JH can produce premature molting of young immature stages, disrupting larval development. They can also act on eggs, causing sterility, disrupting behavior or disrupting diapause, the process that causes an insect to become dormant before winter. IGRs that inhibit JH production can cause insects to prematurely molt into a nonfunctional adult. IGRs that inhibit ecdysone can cause pupal mortality by interrupting the transformation of larval tissues into adult tissues during the pupal stage. Chitin synthesis inhibitors Chitin synthesis inhibitors work by preventing the formation of chitin, a carbohydrate needed to form the insect's exoskeleton. With these inhibitors, an insect grows normally until it molts. The inhibitors prevent the new exoskeleton from forming properly, causing the insect to die. Death may be quick, or take up to several days depending on the insect. Chitin synthesis inhibitors can also kill eggs by disrupting normal embryonic development. Chitin synthesis inhibitors affect insects for longer periods of time than hormonal IGRs. These are also quicker acting but can affect predaceous insects, arthropods and even fish. Compounds include benzoylurea pesticides.
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Post by winic1 on Dec 11, 2015 4:04:57 GMT
Just told me that she sees it available on Amazon UK also.
And the treatment for the birds should be: Ivermectin 1% or Scatt one drop to the back of the neck for a total of 3 doses, each dose 14 days apart.
And another person says, "Try and keep a consistent treatment schedule. As maintainence" which is good advice. After you think they're gone, repeat treatment regularly for a while to make sure they are COMPLETELY gone. Every last horrid little bug of them.
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Post by winic1 on Dec 11, 2015 5:33:05 GMT
Getting rid of the pigeons and their feathers is probably a good idea, too. Any way to convince them they don't want to come near your windows?
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Post by deguconvert on Dec 11, 2015 6:30:52 GMT
You need a fake owl statue that will turn it's head! Perch it on your window sill. No more pigeons.
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Post by animalmadchloe on Dec 11, 2015 11:47:06 GMT
Just told me that she sees it available on Amazon UK also. And the treatment for the birds should be: Ivermectin 1% or Scatt one drop to the back of the neck for a total of 3 doses, each dose 14 days apart. And another person says, "Try and keep a consistent treatment schedule. As maintainence" which is good advice. After you think they're gone, repeat treatment regularly for a while to make sure they are COMPLETELY gone. Every last horrid little bug of them. Thank you for all this information I have already purchased the Ivermectin 1% and f10 vetinary disinfectabt. But I will also look into getting the stuff you have posted! Thank you souch for all.of your help! The pigeons are a night mare ee can't get to our wondow sills because the windows don't open wide xxx
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Post by frannerz on Jul 2, 2016 7:49:05 GMT
Also maybe try something more simple, I swear by the old ' soak it in MILTON and cold water solution '.
We used to have a lot of reptiles, they have their own type of mite but they infest your home just the same. More often than not, the source of an infestation outbreak could be traced back to the most recent purchase we had made at a local pet shop, and unwittingly then introduced into our home.
Be it hunting out warm blood or cold blood, a mite is a mite and it makes your skin crawl.
Everything was always washed down in Milton solution and my theory was, if in doubt, fill up the bath, add 2 or 3 caps of Milton. Then DUNK IT and soak as per instructions on Milton label.
JUST BE SURE TO DRY IT ALL THOROUGHLY Just to be safe, but Milton is used to sterilise baby bottles so it's pretty sound.
All soft furnishings, shake and vac, and hover everywhere, I mean everywhere. Every crevice in your sofa etc. And do this until you start to feel better in your self. Less like your covered in mites still.
Also as soon as you hover take that bag out and get rid of it. If you leave it in the vacuum when your done hoovering, they just all crawl right back out of the pipe and all your hard work is undone.
Shake and vac is brilliant stuff but hoover thoroughly to get right down in material fibres etc.
You will be on top of it soon enough. Hope this helps, luv ya x
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