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Post by bouncy on Aug 9, 2020 15:17:57 GMT
Pretty much any cuddly dog toy from a pet shop is safe. I had a little donkey from The Range that Spidey continually dragged into the cage, but he's just a kleptomaniac  |
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Post by deguconvert on Aug 9, 2020 23:07:14 GMT
Mschips . . . you say that both cages are the dimensions that you have given . . . and I'm just wondering, have you had them both living in one of these, or did you have them joined together to make one larger cage? Or is the cage they were both living in something different?
And don't worry about being careful with your photos . . . there is absolutely no judgement. I am careful with photos I post as well. I asked simply because pictures make it easier to offer more precise advice. Sometimes we can see things in a photo that aren't obvious through discussion. Bouncy is excellent! You are in good hands!
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Post by mschips on Aug 10, 2020 13:02:32 GMT
The dimensions are for one cage; I have two of the same cage from when I was fostering small animals. Both sisters were living in one cage. I was hoping the accessories would be here today but I now see some won't be here until next Monday. I ordered a couple of stuffed animals without squeakers and non-toxic stuffing. I do have a playpen for them, too.
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Post by bouncy on Aug 10, 2020 15:02:05 GMT
Please don't take this as a judgement or telling off, but degus do need a LOT of space to run, aside from wheels. This forum's cage recommendations are based on running space for this very reason. We also suggest a minimum footprint, which allows enough space for them to get up to speed. The reason I asked about photos is so we could help with recommendations to expand/update. Joined cages seems to be a great first step  Everyone on here has started with something too small. We even had three in a small hamster cage! Places like P@H misselling with false information haven't helped, and some sites haven't been updated, like degupedia. People experience problems (fighting is a regular one), come here for help, and end up becoming helpers themselves, adding and sharing knowledge, which we love and encourage. My first three went into a small rat cage, which I then expanded upwards to six foot. Spidergoo was named because he constantly climbed up the outside during their free-range time, but it was a temporary fix until I could get something more appropriate. We're here and willing to help |
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Post by mschips on Aug 10, 2020 15:14:07 GMT
bouncy my husband and I are looking into a way to join the cages with a homemade tunnel if it turns out that they can be reunited. :-) They did live in smaller quarters for the four years prior to our adopting them. Since they lived peacefully together for 5.5 years you still think it's a cage issue? Right now I'm ensuring they are ok on their own and awaiting all accessories. I have given them extra cloth napkins for cuddling (they love those). Where I live in the US there are very few degu owners and only one vet within 500 miles who has some experience treating them. I made sure to connect with them before I brought the sisters home. As I mentioned the previous owners didn't properly care for them and did not handle the submissive degu at all (this was in their intake notes). I spoil them to the best of my ability with what is available and appreciate the feedback. I'll be back in a week or so!
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Post by deguconvert on Aug 10, 2020 19:19:52 GMT
Canada is not much better. There are cages available that meet our recommendations though, such as the double Liberta or the double Critter Nations. Or, you can build your own, which is what I ended up doing.
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Post by bouncy on Aug 10, 2020 21:21:52 GMT
It is still possible that size is an issue. If the previous owner kept them in something smaller, they probably had issues too. The increase in space since coming to you has seemed like a luxury to them, but they probably want more. I used to have ssome cages similar to these for one group. www.therange.co.uk/pets/small-pets/small-pet-accessories/lazy-bones-two-storey-animal-cageBecause the cage sides are panels held together by steel rods, I was able to (with persuasion from my hammer) to turn two into one by omitting two long side panels. I then added a third by cutting a hole in the wire, then making a plate from aluminium to connect ferplast ferret tubes to join them. It was fun watching the pups trying to get up enough speed to get around a C section. |
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Post by bouncy on Aug 14, 2020 0:14:26 GMT
How are your modifications going?
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