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Post by hpdegus on Jun 7, 2020 1:33:51 GMT
Awwww poor Squidgy! They should have let him play!
Pads would turn to Moony during a pause, look really hard and decide no, we're not fighting. And then groom Moony. Not what he wanted I don't think!
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Post by hpdegus on Jun 7, 2020 15:54:30 GMT
We've arrived at the FBOD. Both have fur pulled out/little bit of blood on one cheek but nothing else that I can spot. I'm giving them a bit of time separated, so we'll see if that helps.
They spent about 6 hours sleeping together last night but I woke up to fighting. Who knows.
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Post by deguconvert on Jun 7, 2020 18:56:27 GMT
ARGH!! They're brats . . . plan and simple. I used to threaten my kids with boot camp when they were little and fighting like feral animals. Boot camp was . . . extra chores and really tight reigns on all behaviors for at least a week. Not sure how you would implement that with degus. LOL!
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Post by moletteuk on Jun 7, 2020 19:02:29 GMT
Oh dear, don't they know they are supposed to be getting along at this time of year?
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Post by hpdegus on Jun 7, 2020 19:08:26 GMT
If only there were a degu boot camp! Or some sort of summer camp they could ne sent to so they could figure out how to behave again!
Hahaha, is it bad that that was one of my first thoughts Molette???
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Post by hpdegus on Jun 7, 2020 21:18:33 GMT
I took out one of their half shelves. I noticed that all escalations seemed to happen when they spent time on that particular shelf. They've been together for over 20min now. Clearly not the happiest with each other, but its mostly following and a bit of cautiously approaching to just back off. And they've actually spent some time away from each other so the following isnt complete stalking.
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Post by hpdegus on Jun 7, 2020 21:53:35 GMT
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Post by bouncy on Jun 8, 2020 1:52:26 GMT
I tried it to try and get Spidey to chill out a bit, but it didn't make a blind bit of difference. Mind, he is just weird.
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Post by hpdegus on Jun 8, 2020 2:08:33 GMT
Ahhh, good to know.
I think I'm gonna try it, as long as it wouldn't hurt them?
I'm moving in about a month and a half to a place that has more room. I'll actually be able to put the Mauraders in a separate room from the other groups, which may help.
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Post by deguconvert on Jun 8, 2020 6:31:50 GMT
Will that mean new roommates, or will you have a place all to yourself?
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Post by hpdegus on Jun 8, 2020 12:07:44 GMT
All to myself. Itll be a nice change of pace honestly
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Post by moletteuk on Jun 8, 2020 12:23:36 GMT
Can you get a chloroform refill for when it gets really bad?? I can't see anything particularly worrying about it, with it being sold for so many animals I would think any problems would have emerged, it would be breathing irritation that you would be looking for. I can't see it being that effective though, feeding the calming herbs would be an interesting idea.
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Post by hpdegus on Jun 8, 2020 12:27:23 GMT
Hahaha, if only! Well...I do work in a lab that has chloroform.... Thanks for looking into that! Hmmm, that would be interesting. They're all fine? If so maybe I'll order some for my next forage order.
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Post by bouncy on Jun 8, 2020 21:09:37 GMT
Careful with the chloroform dose (and degu sabotage), don't want it to be fatal
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Post by moletteuk on Jun 9, 2020 18:48:28 GMT
Valerian (Valeriana officianalis), basil (Ocimum basilicum), and normal sage (Salvia officinalis) are safe, not sure about vetivert. It's usually best to go steady with quantity with medicinal type herbs. Chamomile would be an option too that is safe and calming and usually available to buy. It's not really something I've seen talked about much for degus, perhaps their digestion system means the herbs don't have the same effect, but I've seen herbs mentioned medicinally for rabbits and they have the same type of digestions.
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Post by hpdegus on Jun 9, 2020 18:51:36 GMT
Thanks for looking into that Molette!
I don't want to jinx it, but they've been cuddling for the last two hours.
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Post by hpdegus on Jun 9, 2020 19:55:07 GMT
Well, that only lasted 3 hours.
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Post by deguconvert on Jun 9, 2020 20:43:31 GMT
Rats!! Little vandals.
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Post by bouncy on Jun 9, 2020 21:03:04 GMT
Stop tempting fate! Lol
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Post by hpdegus on Jun 9, 2020 21:31:20 GMT
Haha, I just got so excited! I'll keep quiet about it next time
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