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Post by hpdegus on Mar 15, 2019 22:08:34 GMT
So pups are being a bit bratty during play time. Yay for dominance fights. Nothing awful, but they did start jump kicking. Just been putting one back in the cage to cool off for a bit, then they get together time for a while.
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Post by bouncy on Mar 15, 2019 23:37:33 GMT
Lol my lot do that for fun!
*girlyslapgirlyslapgirlyslap* *flying roundhouse kick*
........and repeat!
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Post by hpdegus on Mar 15, 2019 23:52:32 GMT
Hahaha, that sounds adorable!
There was tail wagging from Pickett, so I decided to intervene!
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Post by bouncy on Mar 16, 2019 0:18:44 GMT
Have a look back in the Mischief and mayhem thread - there's a video of Spud and Sausage. Squidgy (RIP) tried to join in, but they just ignored him lol
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Post by hpdegus on Mar 16, 2019 0:23:27 GMT
I'll make sure to do that Bouncy!
Now they're fighting in their cage. I blocked off their view of the rescues cage, so hopefully they calm down soon.
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Post by bouncy on Mar 16, 2019 0:25:45 GMT
P17, marks out of ten Excited pups! They'll fall asleep in a bit lol
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Post by hpdegus on Mar 16, 2019 0:50:47 GMT
Haha, thanks, that's very helpful! They're cuddling now
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Post by bouncy on Mar 16, 2019 3:09:34 GMT
Awwwwwwww happy!
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Post by hpdegus on Mar 29, 2019 21:19:39 GMT
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Post by bouncy on Mar 29, 2019 23:17:04 GMT
The poor box! Mine suffered the same fate...........Three holes and counting......... RIP poor box!
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Post by hpdegus on Mar 29, 2019 23:44:34 GMT
Oh man, your box is in a rough spot too!
Mine is supposed to be blocking off an edge of the play area. But it may be defective now...
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Post by deguconvert on Mar 30, 2019 1:55:15 GMT
I LOVE the tiny squeak and jump when they bump noses . . . or teeth . . . and the one on the inside takes over! SO CUTE!
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Post by moletteuk on Mar 30, 2019 18:08:05 GMT
That squeak is fantastic!
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Post by hpdegus on Mar 31, 2019 17:22:51 GMT
I'm thinking about moving the rescues into Fred's old cage. Theres only an inch or so of space between that cage and the pups, but I have wire mesh that prevents tails or snoots from going in range of the other group.
It would give me a ton more floor space for the play area, which would be nice. At this point, the two groups don't seem to interact with each other. There is some watching, particularly when the other group makes an interesting noise. The pups do fight for dominance a bit at night, but I think that's just the age they're at currently.
Does this seem too early? I don't want to rush things and cause a preventable setback. Or would it be best to put this whole thing off for a while until the pups are older?
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Post by deguconvert on Mar 31, 2019 19:19:52 GMT
Refresh my memory . . . the pups are how old now? Fred's cage is vacant and thoroughly cleaned, I am assuming. And bigger? Your main concern is that going into the new space could incite increased fighting between them?
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Post by hpdegus on Mar 31, 2019 19:33:42 GMT
Pups are now 8.5 months old.
Fred's cage isnt bigger per se, but it would allow the rescues to be closer, rather than caddy corner, they'd have an entire side connected to the pups cage.
I'm not worried about the rescues, honestly. Their dynamics seem really stable at this point. I am worried whether I'm pushing this on the pups too quickly and at the wrong age for them. I can always put a metal sheet between the two cages if it increases fighting between the pups though, I guess.
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Post by deguconvert on Mar 31, 2019 19:46:31 GMT
Well . . . it isn't a reduction in size, so that is good. Is DOES reduce the spacial demand for you, while increasing free range space for them. That is good! It gives a little more contact with each pair, so that is good, and it can be mitigated by the use of a metal sheet if fighting breaks out. Also good. The pups are definitely in that age where the potential for fighting is increasing, but that will likely happen whether they are nearer or farther from the rescues anyway. IF they are determined to fight . . . they are going to fight regardless.
I think you can certainly move them into Fred's old cage, but I would first off put some of their old dirty substrate in there for a few days first, so that it has time to properly smell more like them. That will also help the rescues with the changes coming. Maybe even rub it around a couple times a day just to improve the effect of it. Then fill it with a good half of their current substrate and fill in the difference with new substrate so that it doesn't need cleaning too soon, but still smells like home. (or all of it if you have recently changed it all out for new stuff) And then if the cage you just removed them from is something that can collapse, or be taken apart for storage, then do that and store it, just in case you may need it again should there be a battle royal between the pups that requires an amount of separation/healing before you can reintroduce them again. (Pups are lovely little pains at times as a result of their dramatic drive for dominance.)
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Post by hpdegus on Mar 31, 2019 20:24:10 GMT
Awesome, I'll definitely move over some of their substrate.
One nice thing is that I only have one type of cage, so I can actually just move all the shelves over without any effort at all. That should hopefully help the rescues, particularly Ollie, so he won't have to learn a new layout.
And I'll just leave their cage assembled and put it out of the way, just in case the pups go crazy. Haha, ya, pups and their dominance drive are so fun...
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Post by hpdegus on Apr 3, 2019 0:42:14 GMT
Ok, so rescues are in Fred's old cage now. The pups seem extra vigilant, and they did start fighting. So I made it so they can't see the rescues at all. Rescues don't seem bothered by the pups proximity at all. I'll keep an eye on the pups though, may have to switch the rescues back and give them some time.
On a side note, one of Picketts back claws is a bit wonky. It's always been a bit long, but I was afraid to try trimming it. I think it's getting really stuck in the fleece/carpet at this point though, and he seems to be favoring it. Any suggestions? If I have to try trimming it, I'd be fine, if someone has a diagram. One of my housemates works with mice, so she'd be comfortable helping if needed.
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Post by bouncy on Apr 3, 2019 0:57:14 GMT
If someone can hold his paw steady, you can try clipping it with normal nail clippers, but tiny bits at a time, or perhaps put a stone in a high traffic area?
Tbh, with the intros, you'll never really know until you try. There's no timeframe, just goo behaviour.
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