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Post by rockyschick on Oct 23, 2013 16:44:04 GMT
Think shes had some babies can hear squeks that dont think is her
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Post by rockyschick on Oct 23, 2013 17:58:00 GMT
Def got babies seen 1 and she ia much smaller she has filled entrance to nest wirh kitchen roll so we cannot see them
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Post by ilikedegus on Oct 23, 2013 19:31:32 GMT
As soon as you tell us you are "allowed" to see them by mum, we'll all be wanting to see a photo. They are awfully cute... ;-)
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Post by rockyschick on Oct 23, 2013 21:28:00 GMT
Will do squidge is out of nest eating and back to her usual self. Cage is pup proof after lots of cardboard and cable ties.
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Post by ilikedegus on Oct 23, 2013 22:21:07 GMT
I'm sort of envious - we have always adopted older boys apart from a pair of 5 week old lads.
I know it's unplanned but enjoy them while they're super-ultra-cute ;-)
And check the cardboard frequently for holes; one of our guys thinks ripped-up cardboard is the BEST nesting material ever.
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Post by deguconvert on Oct 24, 2013 3:35:57 GMT
Congratulations!! She sounds like she is going to be a good Mom. You will need to frequently check the state of the cardboard, as they are so quick to completely destroy it. Depending on Mom, she might not be into it, but the pups could be before long, so be as vigilant as you can be.
Also . . . you will need to know that by age of four weeks you should be starting to determine the gender of all your pups. You could actually do that now, but I don't want to press you into doing it and potentially distressing Momma goo a bit. Generally speaking, degu Moms are not fussed that humans will pick up and look at their babies; they won't refuse them, nor will they attack them afterward. But degus are sexually viable much earlier in captivity than they are in the wild. We have gone through a year of . . . unintentional degu breeding . . . and in the course of that time learned that male pups as young as 8-10 weeks can impregnate females, and females as young as 6 weeks of age can be impregnated. This is a result of the high nutritional value/quality of food that is available for our pet degus than what they have access to in the wild. They just don't have to work as hard to eat. So . . . make babies while the making is good . . . seems to be the result. Although pups are so much smaller than older degus, I found that it was just as easy to determine their genders.
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Post by rockyschick on Oct 24, 2013 5:29:32 GMT
The cardboards on outside of cage but its only temporary until my brother comes tonight with the wood frame he has made for us. Will post pics as soon as possible and sex them as early as we can how long do they need to stay with mum and is there anything we need to do
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Post by rockyschick on Oct 24, 2013 20:33:21 GMT
Seven babies all seem fine. Mums allowed me to check on them and touch them but when hubby tried to give her attention she bite him again have taken a photo of the babies but don't know how to upload it
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Post by ntg on Oct 24, 2013 21:00:41 GMT
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Post by rockyschick on Oct 24, 2013 21:17:30 GMT
No pah said they will take them for us we will keep a girl to keep mom company but not got room for another 2 cages a guy who works on farm where I work sister keeps goos so she may want some but im definitely not selling them to anyone if anyone on here is interested let me know.i only want them to go to people who have goos already. 1 off the babies got out of the nest mum just drag it by its tail back inside looked awful.
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Post by ntg on Oct 24, 2013 21:23:02 GMT
If you can, you might want to keep two of the baby girls so that (as morbid as it sounds) when one of them passes you don't have to worry about introductions? You could put an advert on our adoptions page, once you manage to sex them and post your location to help them find homes
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Post by rockyschick on Oct 24, 2013 21:37:11 GMT
Thanks will do we last weighed her sunday and she was 370g so she was really massive I put wheel in for her today and she wouldnt stop running other than to run round box to make sure they were not out
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Post by rockyschick on Oct 25, 2013 17:56:11 GMT
How soon before can climb a wire cage?
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Post by deguconvert on Oct 25, 2013 18:07:31 GMT
You could see them climbing by about a weeks age . . . depending on the temerity of the pup, it can be sooner or later than that. I may be a little early in my estimates . . . but better to be prepared than not. They are escape artists! Most of them are quite adventurous, and will be wanting to check out the wheel as well.
Pups can be separated as early as six weeks of age, they are healthy and strong enough at this age but can benefit from a little more "degu behavior tutoring" from Momma goo, but absolutely should be separated by age eight weeks.
Dragging by the tail is actually very common behavior in degus, and it doesn't seem to cause them pain or discomfort. I've seen it many times, even amongst our adult degus, and they never seem to cry following, nor hold grudges.
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Post by ntg on Oct 27, 2013 22:16:59 GMT
How's mammy goo doing? She sounds like she's been doing a great job so far.
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Post by animalmadchloe on Nov 1, 2013 15:48:24 GMT
Any photos
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Post by rockyschick on Nov 9, 2013 18:01:10 GMT
Sorry still no photos as I can upload them. Baby goos are doing well climbing all over cage started eating solids today. Mum seems ok she is still a bit nippy with us she ia not liking baby's eating her food and warning them off. We are all not confident in putting hands in cage in case she bites so tend to distract her when putting food in. Boys have calmed down alot since she has been moved. Sexed pups and we think we have 4 boys 3 girls
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Post by ntg on Nov 10, 2013 9:36:03 GMT
Hi, thanks for the update glad the babies are doing well! I'm surprised that she still seems to be acting out with you. Was she always like this before the pregnancy/birth or is it just since they were due? It's just not like them to bite for no apparent reason, unless there is some sort of perceived threat associated with you. Have you tried uploading the images to photobucket and then copying and pasting the image code (should be beside the photo) that starts with "img src="?
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Post by ntg on Nov 10, 2013 9:38:05 GMT
Oh and it might be time to get another couple of foodbowls and putting them well away from Mums if she's getting defensive! Just incase she's particularly grumpy one day.
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Post by deguconvert on Nov 11, 2013 6:55:20 GMT
Exactly what I was going to say, NTG. Pups are massive little eaters as well, so having the extra bowls in there will actually be much needed as the demand for food increases. Grumpy guarding of the food bowls by Momma is pretty normal, and was something that we saw a lot of when our girls had pups they were raising. It is part of teaching them good manners and understanding their place in the social hierarchy of the colony.
Momma may need some reminder hand training from you, so it wouldn't hurt her to have a few extra sunflower seeds, or say almond slivers, each day, hand fed to her while you talk to her and give her some personal time. You will need to try and prevent the pups from interfering, so that Momma goo doesn't get so agitated and defensive over the treats that she nips you by accident. I think you will find that if you can do this with her twice daily at least, she will warm up to you much quicker than you expect.
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