A few remarks on the Beaphar Xtravital Degu: recently they changed the recipe (there is a yellow sticker on the package) and the new Beaphar became worse, I still try to get hold of the older packages because the new ones I will never buy again. I'm actually not sure what was so bad with the new Beaphar but i think the amount of pellets became so much higher. (I do know my degus didn't like it)
Other thing is that i believe that locust beans shouldn't be in degu food.
The Supreme Science Selective Degu is nice to give as a treat not as a daily degu food. And indeed the pieces are a bit big, I make them smaller and give it as a treat, most of the times they hide the pieces and bury them in the bedding.
Finally time for me to start a contribution to this topic:
But first a few important notes, my degus are extremely spoiled and they always get a mixture of 2 or 3 different types/brand of food.
Beaphar Care Degu
- High in fibre - Low fat and sugar content. - Care + stimulates optimal food digestion which prevents fatty deposits around the organs and prevents the development of diabetes - Contains Yucca, Spirulina and chelated minerals - 250g and 1.5kg sizes available
At first my degus were very interested in this food and liked it very much.... But not for long and they ignored the pieces totally. I personally don't like this "all in one" type of food or pellets at all.
I don't consider that spoiled . . . but perhaps that is because I used to do very much the same thing before I started adding dried veg, seeds, and herbs etc to their mix. I was never happy with the contents of any one product and always felt that I had to mix a couple or more commercial foods in order to attain the level of nutrition I wanted them to have.
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Wow, that looks really disappointing compared to the ingredient list!! I bought some dwarf hamter food by Bunny, when I kept dwarf hamsters (obviously), everybody raved about it, but my hamsters never ate a very big % of it.
We don't seem to be able to get the JR Farm Grainless nugget feed for degus in the UK, but the guinea pig one is available and very similar except a very small amount of apple.
Nutritional additives Vit. A 8,600 IU Vit. D3 600 IU Vit. E as alpha-tocopheryl ace-tate 51 mg copper as copper (II)-sulphate-pentahydrate 8.6 mg iodine as calcium iodate-hexahydrate 0.75 mg iron as iron (II)-sulphate monohydrate 43 mg zinc as zinc oxide 51 mg manganese as manganese (II)-oxide 34 mg cobalt as cobalt base (II)-carbonate, monohydrate 0.34 mg selenite as sodium selenite 0.15 mg
The website and the package looks better then the food itself, too much pellets and my degus don't eat them. They did eat some bits when it was new but later on they ignored the food and left about 75% in the food dish.
If your degus like it it might be a good food although a bit expensive.
I've just looked this up online for the ingredients and nutrition data and it doesn't seem to be for sale at Zooplus any more, or the Degu Premium, which is a bit of a worry. Looking on the JR Farm site, it looks like they may have changed them both to 'Degu Feast'.
I was amazed that my degus absolutely love this! It's really healthy for them with it being made mostly of digestible plant fibre. There is a degu version that doesn't have the apple in that would be better, but it doesn't seem to be available in UK. The apple and beetroot are quite far down the ingredients list so I'm not too worried about them. I really recommend this product
Ingredients: Pea flakes, field bean flakes, carrot flakes, sunflower petals 5%, parsnips, parsley, beets, red clover 5%, rose petals 3%, cornflower blossoms 2.5%, with no artificial colours or preservatives.
Ash 5.5 % Fat 2.1 % Fibre 20.2 % Protein 16.1 %
£3.49 250 gram
I scatter a small handful of this over the food above and use it as individual treats for training. Each degu has their own favourite ingredient if allowed to choose (two choose the pea/bean flakes, one chooses the sunflower petals and cornflower blossoms, and the other one prefers the red clover), but they will eat all of the treats if placed in the cage/bowl.
PLEASE NOTE ANY SUNFLOWER SEEDS VISIBLE IN THE PHOTO HAVE BEEN MIXED IN BY ME AND ARE NOT PART OF THE STANDARD PRODUCT
Post by lessthansign3 on Dec 19, 2012 18:08:11 GMT
In case anyone in the US is interested, I just got my package of Oxbow's Organic guinea pig food today. I decided to try it as an alternative to Gerty Guinea Pig, which I'd rather not buy and support a brand that is harmful to guinea pigs, and the Sunseed degu brand, which is the only brand readily available in the US and is... subpar at best. Those are literally the only choices we have here unless we want to import foods from the UK or Germany.
Compared to what else is available in the US, this seemed like the best option by far. It's available at Petsmart in theory, but the Petsmart I stopped at didn't have it so I ordered it on Amazon (hooray for Amazon Prime). It was about $12.50 for a 3 lbs bag - WAY too expensive to ever start feeding to my guinea pigs, who go through a 10 lbs bag of the regular stuff (which is $15) in less than a month. But, for degus, it's worth the price, especially considering I plan on adding a lot more natural goodies to their diet.
Edit: Well, after a few days I can pretty well say the degus are not impressed. They don't appear to be eating it. Ah, it was worth a shot, am I right? Maybe someone else's degus will feel differently about it. Mine certainly aren't thrilled.
Timothy grass, pea flakes, orchard grass, ribwort, smooth meadow-grass, red clover, meadow fescue, ladies mantel, stinging nettle leaves, broad bean flakes, carrot slices,peppermint leaves, chamomile petals, rose hips, fennel, marigold blossoms, apple slices, beetroot cubes, carrot cubes, parsnip cubes, linseed, black cumin, lady s thistle,parsley, dandelion leaves, Echinacea, apple cubes, vitamins Additives: nutritional additives: Vitamins: A 10,000 IU., D³ 1,000 IU., C 250 mg, C 250 mg, E 40 mg Analytical constituents: Protein 16.1%, fat content 3.5%, crude fibre 19.2%, crude ash 11.4%, calcium 0.5%, phosphorus 0.3%
I thought I'd get a bag of this to see what it is like. It seems to consist of the clover section log pieces which presumably are identical to the JRF guinea pig grainless nuggets, and also some cylindrical pieces which seem to be grass based, plus various other bits. I've shown a photo below to show you the apple and rosehips which should be removed due to sugar content.
My degus are rejecting the cylindrical hay nuggets in the mix, but if you can get your degus to eat them, and if you remember to remove the apple and rosehips, then this could be a good choice of commercial food. The calcium content is a bit low and also the Ca:P ratio is a little low, so this food should be supplemented with calcium or with calcium rich foods like dill and celery seed or alfalfa or dandelion.