arro
Newborn Degu
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Post by arro on Feb 4, 2011 10:44:30 GMT
Hi guys,
Ok so we have two males approx year and half old who would not share a cage. we took some advice and got some baby boys followed the introduction guide to the letter eventually putting two boys with each adult.
They have been together for 6 days now and one lot are fine grooming goo piling the works, we are very happy with these two (touch wood they stay like this!!)
The other 3 have been ok for first 3 days but yesterday we had to seperate them due to the adult and one baby quite badly fighting ( rolling in ball etc) before we seperated them after fights they would still groom and sleep together etc.
Are we at fault for been to over protective or would people advise we start introduction process again?. Could they if left sort the issues out? there are no cuts or anything so dont think they are biting its just fights were getting more regular.
quick point the baby that is fighting is the largest out of the 4 we got so could it be him challenging for dominance and not giving up!!
Thanks to anyone who can help.
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Post by nickymills30 on Feb 4, 2011 11:14:24 GMT
as long as they are not drawing blood, i would be inclinded to leave them to it. I don't think you can ever be too over protective lol, think we are all the same.
If you wanted to, you could separate them and start the intro process again, but if they have been together for 6 days, then i think you may do more halm than good, they are just sorting out who is boss xxx
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arro
Newborn Degu
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Post by arro on Feb 4, 2011 13:34:26 GMT
yeah its hard as you always feel bad for them but you know sometimes tough love is the only way forward!!.
we will try them again tonight and see how they go, sometimes you wish they could just be able to speak and tell you whats wrong!!!
Thanks again
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Post by whizzer27 on Feb 5, 2011 11:18:25 GMT
We put them back together last night and they've been snuggling ever since! Think we're just going to leave them in now and see how they get on. All in all *touch wood!* two successful introductions :-) xx
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Post by nickymills30 on Feb 5, 2011 15:20:17 GMT
well done. Sometimes my boys can go weeks without any trouble, then they have days, where all i seem to do it shout at them lol xx
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Post by kristenfiddes on Feb 6, 2011 0:24:47 GMT
I see the boys are doing exactly the same as their sister then. Our Daisy keeps chasing Penny and Tink around the cage and trying to fight for dominance. For the most part she's ignored, but Penny has her days where she gets annoyed and just swats her away.
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arro
Newborn Degu
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Post by arro on Feb 23, 2011 10:45:17 GMT
so....................... we have sucess (touch wood) with sheldon and the addition of two babies, so far been together for a few weeks and all is good. BUT..................we have had issues still with raj and his babies we put them back together as advised but last week the fighting went to another level with raj getting a cut paw and ernie one of the babies getting a cut nose. we seperated them and tried them back together but again fighting broke out. we currently have raj in the same cage as the younger boys but seperated, we are going to start introduction from step 1 again but wondered if anyone else had any advice.
Raj does seem happy by himself but with interaction from the others through the bars, is it possible he just wont take to others in his cage, he seems to react whem the boys are trying to groom him but he is chillin so runs away, they follow him them it turns nasty.
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arro
Newborn Degu
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Post by arro on Feb 23, 2011 10:50:32 GMT
a quick note, the other option was to get another cage for raj and put his inbetween the other two cages so he gets interaction from either side whilst having his own freedom, obviously we would love to get them together as we feel sorry for him on his own (although he does get extra cuddles!!)
Thanks again for any advice
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Post by nickymills30 on Feb 23, 2011 11:23:55 GMT
some times, goo's just don;t want to be with another goo. I;ve had it happen twice, once with a male, and then a female. Nothing i did worked, so they are on their own. The little boy know lives with a friend, who has only got danny, so he gets loads of attention. The little girl is another story, as she can be aggresive to us, as well as other goo's. She is going to a new home, on friday, they already have female goo;s so she will live next to them, its her choice at the end of the day xx
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Post by moletteuk on Feb 23, 2011 18:49:05 GMT
might it be worth leaving it for a couple of months until breeding season is finished?
Or you could wait a bit for the youngsters to grow up and gain strength and for Raj to get fed up of being on his own and then Raj might be willing to submit to the biggest youngster.
I've read that they can sometimes attack each other through the bars when they are split caged after fighting, so it's probably a good sign that yours aren't doing this.
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arro
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Post by arro on Feb 25, 2011 11:12:37 GMT
Think the only thing we can do is leave it for a bit and try again, if it fails then just go with raj on his own. When is the breeding season? only having boys i didnt realise they had a specific time of year.
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Post by deguconvert on Feb 25, 2011 16:18:25 GMT
They don't actually have a specific time, as the females are stimulated by the presence of a male, not by the seasons of the year. BUT it has been noted again and again that the males seem to have greater aggression at certain times of the year and the only conclusion that has been arrived at is that it must have something to do with mating.
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Post by moletteuk on Feb 26, 2011 12:54:21 GMT
degutopia says you are most likely to see fighting in the breeding season - early winter to mid spring.
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