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Post by emz on Jun 21, 2010 20:47:18 GMT
They would hate to meet me I'd tell them exactly where to shove that sort of attitude. I am usually pretty passive until animals become involved then I develop quite a harsh tongue when near people like that who think pets are some sort of lesser being to ourselves. Animals become just like another family member. I remember when my guinea pig Twix died in 2007 it felt like losing a little sister or a daughter or something to me because she was my little girl who had been with me for 6 years (most of high school and all of college.) I cried in the middle of Uni in front of all my friends for about an hour none stop. They were all pretty comforting to me (for a bunch of 18-20 year old guys lol.) You cry as much as you need to and whenever you need to. Vent on here whenever you want - I am sure all of us will listen and understand completely. It is far better to let your emotions take over instead of bottling it up and losing part of your humanity like your co-workers seem to have done. Though there is no need to cry now as they seem to be doing ok from the sounds of things? - and I really do hope it stays that way for you as you all have been through enough last night. I remember a few weeks ago how draining the day was when I had to rush Steve to the vets you really just stop caring about everything else and just think constantly about them. I am rambling, sorry!
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Post by DegutasticJen on Jun 21, 2010 21:04:05 GMT
Im exactly the same Im quite passive aswell so when I came in and was greeted by that I did snap and shouted them down. But my head is all over the place so probably wasnt a great come back, just a blubbering mess this morning.
But yes I am keeping as positive as I can now. But thank you. Really does help to know other ppl understand exactly how Im feeling right now.
When my dog died in 07 i was totaly destraught, and it did feel like you said, like a sister had been taken away. Because I had grown up with my lil dog and I was so upset when she died.
All animals are family members in my household, and that will always be the same
Thanks Emz, it does help. You shouldnt apologise for rambling :-), as I never think you ramble, just expressing how you feel :-)
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Post by iamlina on Jun 21, 2010 21:13:43 GMT
Hi Jen, I'm so sorry about your little ones. The one that survived is obviously a little fighter! I hope you, fudge the other degus and your other half are all doing okay. Some people are just ignorant to these things. Just ignore them.
You seem to be doing a great job in looking after them. You obviously are a great mum =]
Good luck love! x
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Post by emz on Jun 21, 2010 22:17:18 GMT
Are they still doing ok? x
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Post by DegutasticJen on Jun 21, 2010 23:13:01 GMT
They seem to be doing ok, Fudge seems to be taking more of an interest now thank god and she's walking more now so she seems a lot stronger than earlier! Wanting to clean and groom the baby and is a lot more mobile I'm going to get a few hours kip before the next feed so I can hopefuly get some rest and have a clearer head in the morning! Baby still seems a bit weak for my liking but is warm and feeding well so hopefully should be fine!
Thank u lina for your kind words and support you have all really helped me! Will update you again soon X
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Post by emz on Jun 21, 2010 23:48:19 GMT
Glad to see mum is getting stronger and taking an interest in the pup. Hopefully when she feels stronger still she will be able to take over and you'll be able to sleep a full night soon.
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Post by deguconvert on Jun 22, 2010 1:05:24 GMT
I'm sending you a great big hug, so I'm hoping it will come through. People anywhere can be cruel about things they don't understand, or don't want to understand. I'm sorry they were insulting and mean. That was totally uncalled for, and whether they know it or not now, there WILL be a day when the kindness and understanding of others because of a personal loss will mean a lot to them. Now . . . a broken shoelace, getting a smaller piece of cake than your sibling, losing on a computer game, those might be things that don't fit with a deep emotional reaction . . . but this is a totally different thing indeed! You are completely normal and healthy in your feelings, and I completely understand and stand with you. As do all the other members here!!
I'm so glad the pup and Fudge are both through their day OK. I hope and pray this will continue to be the case. In about four days, don't be afraid to show the pup the solid food. Often at day four they start to nibble now and again on solids. The special food you have been making up will be OK to show him as well, I would think.
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Post by DegutasticJen on Jun 22, 2010 5:38:12 GMT
Unfortunately we lost the pup through the night :-( we got up to do the 4 o'clock feed and pup had sadly passed away :-(! it hurts so much as we faught so hard to keep pup alive! Unfortunately this pup was a lot smaller than the rest so I'm wondering if it could have been the runt of the litter
the fight for Fudge is still on as she's not out of the dark yet unfortunately :-(!
Thank you convert,its just so heartbreaking :-( X
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Post by NightwishRaven999 on Jun 22, 2010 5:51:02 GMT
Jen, thats so sad... I am really sorry for the loss. I know you have been working hard to keep him alive...I am really sorry. I will be thinking of you and Fudge.
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Post by DegutasticJen on Jun 22, 2010 7:03:09 GMT
Thank you Jordan, its a very sad household at the moment :-(
But were still fighting for Fudge
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Post by Kins on Jun 22, 2010 8:43:18 GMT
Awww, I'm so sorry to hear that!!! You poor thing, so sad. At least you tried your very hardest and were very dedicated and didn't give up!!!
I hope Fudge is doing ok?! At least she has lots of company and a completely dedicated Mummy!!!
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Post by iamlina on Jun 22, 2010 8:57:32 GMT
Give fudge lots of hugs. I hope she pulls through. Sorry to hear that the little one died too. You done all you could plus more.
x
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Post by emz on Jun 22, 2010 14:07:04 GMT
Oh no Jen! I am really sad to hear this - poor little pup! At least you know you tried your absolute best and there was nothing else you can do. I am trying not to tear up here myself. I am praying for Fudge to recover. x
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Post by deguconvert on Jun 22, 2010 14:15:00 GMT
Hard to say on the forum what I could so much easier say with a hug in person. My heart hurts with yours. I'm so sorry the pup didn't make it. I'll be praying for Fudge, too.
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Post by DegutasticJen on Jun 22, 2010 17:42:17 GMT
Thank you so much everyone. Today has been a hard day as you can imagine. I didnt get hardly any sleep once I found the baby, i was just too upset and devastated to even think about sleep. I had to go to work this morning, so Fudge was being looked after by my hubby. She actualy seems soo much better today. Looking much stronger and walking around abit more. Im still feeding her aswell with this nutrient food given by the vets, just to keep her topped up as she wasnt eating yday, but today I have seen her having a lil nibble of some food thank god. Also nibbling of the biscuits I made, so hopefully she is starting to feel better. Shes grooming herself and taking baths now which is brilliant. Her sisters all seem to know theres been a problem and are all extra careful when grooming Fudge which is just lovely. Im off work for the rest of the week now, so can keep taking good care of her. After this experience I am actualy thinking about returning to carry on training as a vet nurse. I left before because of my circumstances at the time couldnt support my studying. However after all this, I realised I need to help animals in need I really do. My passion is animals and I would do anything for them.
However im rambling, Thank you everyone for your kind words and support I will keep you all updated with her progress. But things are looking up I hope. She came out and gave me a lovely cuddle earlier. Kind of felt like she was saying thank you, the way she just waddled out onto my hands. Seeing her healthy is all I want now. You guys are all so lovely. Thank you again!
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Post by emz on Jun 22, 2010 18:23:45 GMT
I hope you do continue your training if you can and do well! It sounds like a fun job, to take care of animals.
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Post by DegutasticJen on Jun 22, 2010 18:42:39 GMT
Yeah I think Id love to do it again. Going to get the ball in motion.
Fudge just got up out of her lil spot where shes been laying and rumaged through the food bowls and grabbed a big chunk of hay. Things are definately looking up :-)
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Post by deguconvert on Jun 22, 2010 20:15:28 GMT
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Post by DegutasticJen on Jun 22, 2010 20:40:42 GMT
Thank you, I am so worried about her sisters, because I didnrt know I had a male when they were sold to me the other two are preggers aswell, because if u remember my angel had babies in march which made me realise we had one male with 3 other females and because I didn't remove the male quick enough after the first birth angel is now also preggers again! Male was obviously removed as soon as poss after babies were born, but he had obviously already done the deed, least I know once these other two have given birth thatl be it and neither of them have to go through all that again :-(!
I just really hope their births aren't too bad, I am so angry with myself that I trusted the pet shop, If I had have sexed them myself when I got them home I could have stopped all this pain for fudge!
I just really hope the other twos births go ok! As previously said in my very first thread I will be keeping all the babies I have, which is why I have prepared the huge cages for both sex's! I will be double triple careful with sexing them, least I can tell between the both now, better than the pet shop did! Ohwell what's done now! I just wish I could have stopped all this pain for them, by sexing them again when I got home!
Thank you convert, Fudge just came out for cuddles and so did Squidge, I think it could be the last month of the pregnancy for Squidge as she's had her lil nipples popped out and she loves her lil cuddles and naps! Ill be praying Fudge continues with her recovery and that Squidge and Angel have no complications during birth!
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Post by DegutasticJen on Jun 22, 2010 20:43:57 GMT
Sorry for rambling, head is all over the place, but finaly settling now Fudge seems to be recovering well! So sorry if the above post doesn't make sence, as I'm very tired
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