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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 10:08:49 GMT
He will appreciate it in the long run!
Kev had a bit of blood transfer too.
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Post by misscatafer on Mar 27, 2018 10:18:59 GMT
Oh wow, looks like your procedure was different to Tobys. Is that the incision next to the cone? Toby had an incision on his abdomen, way above the cone. The stitches were dissolvable and inside so he couldn't pull them out. Never had any blood after the procedure, quite a bit of swelling though which went down naturally.
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Post by moletteuk on Mar 27, 2018 10:33:43 GMT
I think it looks OK. The swelling is often quite alarming and also the way the abdomen adjusts to the bits missing, if you recall Kev's sides looked crazy hollow for a few days, Saddlers boy's always got penile prolapse from the swelling etc. It would be better if it weren't bleeding, but it doesn't look like a lot of blood to me and maybe some of it is old crusted blood. Watch for swelling and redness at the wound, you could get some F10 ointment, I think that would be best for those little bits of wound that look like where the blood might have come from.
It's a good sign if he seems well in himself.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 11:04:37 GMT
moletteuk yeah I sent the photos of Kev over to prewarn lol! Yay for being maid of honour!! 😍🌹 I can’t waiiiitttt to see them together!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 11:05:43 GMT
Oh wow, looks like your procedure was different to Tobys. Is that the incision next to the cone? Toby had an incision on his abdomen, way above the cone. The stitches were dissolvable and inside so he couldn't pull them out. Never had any blood after the procedure, quite a bit of swelling though which went down naturally. Yeah Kev had two incisions like vertical lines above his cone, I did a picture but it won’t let me attach.
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Post by misscatafer on Mar 27, 2018 15:54:21 GMT
Hmmm weird... Tobys cone wasn't affected at all by the procedure. here he is post op. Hope you get through to the vet for some reassurance.
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Post by misscatafer on Mar 27, 2018 16:17:07 GMT
Toby also had much more energy on meds.. He was climbing all over the place I was mad! I couldn't get over how quickly the meds would take effect too, one minute he could barely look up from the snuggle safe then next minute he'd be dancing all over the place.
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Post by moletteuk on Mar 29, 2018 15:31:51 GMT
That's the stuff, it's Titchy that has used the ointment before, I've just got the concentrated solution that you mix with water. I think you won't need too much because you only need to apply it once a day.
How's he looking now?
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Post by yasmin on Mar 31, 2018 3:22:52 GMT
Great news
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Post by misscatafer on Apr 2, 2018 14:37:25 GMT
It does look very sore bless him, has he been leaving it alone? The F10 should help, such a shame you can't cover it with something though as it does look a bit open.
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Post by moletteuk on Apr 2, 2018 16:46:59 GMT
It does look a little inflamed on the right compared to the post surgery pic. I suppose it depends if the gunk was pus or the pre scab stuff - does it smell bad? Can you feel a lump where it's coming from?
Does the ointment really make a seal? Maybe you could try and leave a little gap with no ointment?
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Post by moletteuk on Apr 2, 2018 16:59:50 GMT
OK, in that case I don't think it's too alarming. I can't see him doing too much damage to it himself through activity at this point. See what the vet says when they take a look at the pics.
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Post by deguconvert on Apr 2, 2018 17:45:38 GMT
Any word back from the vet?
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Post by bouncy on Apr 3, 2018 8:07:11 GMT
At this stage, I'd keep him restricted to one level again, keep it clean, and dry. Apart from precautionary antibiotics, I'm not sure how much a vet can do. Does it look like the internal stitches have started to dissolve?
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Post by deguconvert on Apr 3, 2018 17:25:18 GMT
ROFL!! Oh what an image!!! I hope you were alone . . .? Or did you ask your man to check him out with a sniff as well?
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Post by savvy on Apr 4, 2018 11:22:40 GMT
So sorry to read this. My gut reaction would be change vets, I've been to vets like this before and it is all about conveyor belt vet care and how much can they over charge the owner. It's not the way it should be, but is unfortunately all too common.
They cannot stop you from seeking a second opinion although they may not like it and you can file a report with the RCVS to investigate further if you're unhappy with the standards there.
We need, as owners, animal lovers and customers to start making a stand on what we think is substandard vet care, we pay enough for it so we should get the care our pets deserve.
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Post by misscatafer on Apr 4, 2018 15:09:52 GMT
This is heartbreaking, really hope Tibbs will be OK. I'm sure Sandy will be a comfort to him through the bars, but the fact he is still as energetic as ever is surely a positive sign I think you should change vets too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2018 15:20:15 GMT
This is heartbreaking, really hope Tibbs will be OK. I'm sure Sandy will be a comfort to him through the bars, but the fact he is still as energetic as ever is surely a positive sign I think you should change vets too. It’s too expensive to swap and we can’t find another degu friendly vets close to Emzie
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Post by randomname on Apr 4, 2018 17:08:26 GMT
I honestly think it's worth using the more expensive vet at this point, even if it's just for a consult. It sounds like false economy to be going to the cheaper one over & over, & getting nowhere. One consult might be all you need, you might be able to formulate a better plan. If the plan is outside what you can afford, then go back to the cheaper vet & tell them what needs doing (rather than asking their opinion) It's not the best practice for dealing with vets, but morally you need the best outcome for Tibbs plus there's nothing illegal in it, so in this one case it's justifiable. Think of it this way - £60 isn't a lot if they give you different information or a better plan that works. Don't think ahead to any further work yet, make that decision when you have more information. Just my thoughts, feel free to ignore me
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Post by moletteuk on Apr 4, 2018 17:53:34 GMT
I think it would be useful to ask about getting a culture of the infection so you can target it with the right antibiotics ASAP. It's all about using the most effective antibiotic for the specific bacterial infection. Normally you would try the baytril as a broad spectrum that has at least some effect on lots of infections, but this involves a wait and see approach and you probably want the the swiftest, most effective antibiotic for TIbbs ASAP to try to avoid another anaesthetic to drain it.
Can you speak to the vet at the practice that you prefer tomorrow, see what she thinks and if you aren't happy after that think about CJ Hall?
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