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Post by detritus on Sept 18, 2016 20:26:46 GMT
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Post by detritus on Sept 18, 2016 20:32:34 GMT
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Post by deguconvert on Sept 18, 2016 20:51:24 GMT
Of those three, the Aventura is by far your best choice. The other two just don't have the right surface space available. How many degus do you have?
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Post by saggy on Sept 18, 2016 21:01:23 GMT
The aventura's not bad for the price as my aunty has it, the lowest price for a cage of that style. It's not the best quality but good enough. They tray can fit a little wonky. It's not double doors, half shelves are quite good mind you with a rim and you can also hang stuff under mid level unlike some others.
I've got a similar one which is the liberta explorer which you can pick up £10-20 more but is better quality and has double doors and deep metal trays but it has vertical bars which can be a bit of a pain to work around and the caster wheels are awful. So I suppose it depends on what your priorities are.
The other two aren't the best idea. I've had the first one you mention and is a great cage for the price (you can get it cheaper elsewhere) but mine did start fighting in it after nearly a year and a half and I've now had to move them to bigger cage anyway. Might be okay for two if they spend a lot of time out of the cage but really wouldn't recommend it. The second one offers less usuable space overall and would be more of a pain to clean etc.
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Post by dops on Sept 18, 2016 21:23:41 GMT
the liberta explorer is very good, saggy is right! I only got it last week and I haven't found anything about it I don't like so far
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Post by skardsen on Sept 19, 2016 2:41:31 GMT
It's OK. I was disappointed by it when I got mine. There's things that are good about it, but it's not double doors like the Liberta 2nd edition explorer.
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Post by randomname on Sept 19, 2016 16:13:11 GMT
double door cages are so much quicker/easier to clean in the long run. The cage I'd recommend is this one - www.petplanet.co.uk/product.asp?dept_id=456&pf_id=68616It's not clear, but I think it's the Liberta 2nd ed. explorer like saggy recommends. Best cage out there (except the wheels) in terms of size & cleaning imho. I've had a few all metal cages, from Thickets, to Lazybones, to several different flight cages but this is my best buy. It's worth spending that little bit extra as it'll last forever & you don't have to do any adapting for one or two degus. If you have more, & are up for a bit of diy, you can extend them at the top or bottom & add full levels fairly easily. Would be fine for three or four I think. Shop around or look for it second hand if you can, will save a fortune.
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Post by saggy on Sept 19, 2016 17:16:57 GMT
I can vouch for the ease of cleaning with the double doors, it used to take me twice the time and always bust my back trying to lean awkwardly and scrub at the same time - would never go back lol!
The one randomname has tagged is almost exactly the same - there is only one difference which is the hole in the tray between the levels which in the liberta has a rim to help stop stuff falling down to the bottom, not sure it's high enough to make a huge difference mind you but I just put a house over the top and the rim helps keep the house in the right place and the ohuse stops stuff falling through. At first they were just shoving everything down leaving a bare metal floor lol!!
It's quite cute watching them come up through a house door lol!
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Post by skardsen on Sept 19, 2016 19:27:14 GMT
You can get the Liberta from here: www.cagesworld.co.uk/p/Liberta_2nd_Edition_Explorer_Rat,_Ferret_and_Chinchilla_Cage.htm AventuraThe good things about the Aventura are the removable trays. The platforms also have their own removable trays, so it means you just slide the trays out, empty them, replace the bedding, and then slide 'em back in. Easy, and very little (if any) cleaning necessary. It also has horizontal bars on the front and back panels which means your pet can have fun using them to climb on. Another positive is that you can hang things from the roof of the lower cage. The downsides being that the construction quality isn't the best, and the fact it doesn't have double doors. It also sits on the stand purely by means of its own weight, nothing screws in or holds it in place. LibertaThe advantages of the Liberta are the double doors that let you reach any part of the cages, and you also get to have better quality time with your pets due to there being nothing between you when the doors are open. It also comes with 2 hammocks, which my degus found very comfortable, but they destroyed both after a day or two. The disadvantages are that the trays are not removable and that the platforms are flat, meaning you can't use woodshavings to line them as they just get kicked off. It also doesn't have horizontal bars for your pets to climb on, however that isn't really an issue for degus as they prefer running space. My opinionI have both of these cages, and in my opinion the Liberta is the winner. The matter of non-removable trays isn't really an issue because you can reach into any part of the cage due to the double doors. The double doors really do make all the difference, and because of that, I can forgive the couple of flaws it has. In my Aventura, I can't really reach the left sides of the cage properly, so I have to ask my flatmates for help if I'm attaching anything to that side. There's also a couple of very serious flaws on mine. The right panel for the top cage didn't have screw holes in, so I can't fix it properly to the lower cage. The tray in the lower cage has quite a large gap as it's lopsided. If I had younger degus in there they could quite easily squeeze through. Both of the cages have pretty much the same dimensions, so it's down to you which of the features you'd prefer. The Liberta is about £20 more expensive but it's worth it for those doors.
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Post by saggy on Sept 19, 2016 20:39:50 GMT
You can remove the trays on the liberta but you have to open both the doors fully to do so but they don't slide out from under the doors like the aventura
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Post by dops on Sept 19, 2016 22:01:36 GMT
if it is of any concern, the pups my degu had were about a week old when they moved in the Liberta and they havent been able to squeeze out at all
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Post by detritus on Sept 19, 2016 22:29:54 GMT
deguconvert - I've got 3 male degus. This is my current setup: saggy can you show me a pick how do you place the wheel(s) in that cage you recommended. I don't mind adding a few GBP if the cage is better quality and all but I'm also not a fan of DIY. Wheels are the purpose of living for my degus so three need to go in somewhere on these vertical bars. In terms of cleaning - I've been using wooden shelves since the beginning so don't even get me started on how hard it is to keep the cage clean I can't wait for these metal ones!!!
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Post by saggy on Sept 19, 2016 22:59:20 GMT
I have tic tac wheels which you can pretty much screw anywhere although I do use the horizontal bars just under the screws to stop the wheel sliding in case it gets loose - not that this has happened yet. the Liberta is pretty much the same as the sides on your current cage you have shown the pic of. Vertical bars but with a few horizontal running through so there are some to use, just got less options to put stuff. Their water bottles are slightly higher than otherwise would have put them for instance, they can still use them easy enough just got to stretch a little more than they used to lol. Less height options for hammocks and so etc but can still get them all in.
I can show you pics if you still need them?
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Post by detritus on Sept 19, 2016 23:01:15 GMT
Yes please, just want to see it all set up to help me make my final purchase decision.
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Post by saggy on Sept 19, 2016 23:45:47 GMT
ha mine's far from the best example as i had to split my group into the two halfs and only just got them back together a couple of days ago so still a bit of a mess where had to have two set ups in one. My phones not working at mo so will take some pics and upload to laptop tomorrow :-)
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Post by deguconvert on Sept 20, 2016 1:09:50 GMT
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Post by deguconvert on Sept 20, 2016 1:10:20 GMT
OR . . . maybe they will work!! SCORE!!!
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Post by moletteuk on Sept 20, 2016 9:56:32 GMT
If they spend a lot of time running they would probably appreciate bigger wheels with solid running surfaces, there are DIY options or the Tic Tac wheels are currently probably the best option for sale.
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Post by detritus on Oct 15, 2016 15:43:48 GMT
My degus arrived at their new home!
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Post by deguconvert on Oct 15, 2016 19:03:50 GMT
WONDERFUL!!! That looks great!
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