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Post by davx on Sept 21, 2011 21:36:33 GMT
Hello, Fred asked me to publish a safe woods list for degus and prepared for me some species suitable for degus. I started to create a first draft following his recommendations. Here it is: www.octodons.ch/index.php/WoodsThe english is probably not the best, but let me know if you have any correction or idea to rewrite in a better, more elegant form. The content itself is in progress, but it should be a first impress for you and as base for further improvements. |
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Post by davx on Sept 21, 2011 21:40:52 GMT
Just another thing, if you have any important wood (shrub, tree...) not listed yet, let me know.
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Post by fred on Sept 21, 2011 22:09:59 GMT
Thank you so much David, it is very good that we finally have a dependable safe woods list for the English-speaking degu community.
Maybe you could state specifically that this applies to wood and leaves but no other parts of the tree?
For our North American members: leaves of sugar maple and silver maple appear to contain the same subtances that make red maple leaves toxic to some mammals. They can therfore not be considered safe for degus.
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Post by NightwishRaven999 on Sept 22, 2011 5:53:03 GMT
David, I would like to thank you as well for this impressive list.
Many here will find this very useful ! It is comforting to know that not everything is bad or toxic for our degus after all... ;D
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Post by blossombrooks on Sept 22, 2011 6:22:45 GMT
That's a great list, thank you! just a small addition, I give my girls mulberry wood which I'm sure is safe. I have a tree in the garden and I dry the wood in the oven, the girls love it! Glad to see the willow on there, I do give mine willow sticks on occasion.
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Post by fred on Sept 22, 2011 14:38:38 GMT
@ blossombrooks - The list is largely based on experiences within the German degu community, and to some extent also on experiences from keepers of other pet rodents. I don't think I have seen a tree with as little information available as is the case of mulberry. However, there is no reason to think it should not be safe.
@ davx -Perhaps there could be an additional category in the list for trees where only a limited number of observations is available?
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Post by davx on Sept 23, 2011 20:34:04 GMT
Thank you! blossombrooksMulberry is a good tip, thanks. However, in Germany (and Switzerland) it seems to be an uncommon shrub/tree. I know only the dried fruits (I recently discovered them in a shop). @jordan I only typed it down and made a layout suitable for the web. The content is from Fred  . @fred Yes that is possible, I'll do my best. |
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Post by davx on Sept 25, 2011 13:33:17 GMT
Update: I made some little corrections, added a category for uncommon woods and added some further toxic species. www.octodons.ch/index.php/WoodsProblematic woods are still pending. |
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Post by deguconvert on Sept 26, 2011 3:15:41 GMT
A quick question . . . I know raspberry leaves are OK, but what about the canes? Are they safe for chewing too?
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Post by davx on Sept 27, 2011 18:52:29 GMT
Yes the canes are also ok. But they contain a relatively high amount of fibre.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2011 15:22:11 GMT
Thanks for this excellent list, I am using it to make a similar list in Norwegian with focus on woods available in Scandinavia  I have a question about the weeping willow. You have given the weeping willow the latin name Salix babylonica. In Norwegian, we call the weeping willow "sørgepil", and that is a hybrid species with the latin name Salix x sepulcralis. It looks like this:  . We also have another hybrid, the Salix x pendulina. Both of these hybrids have S. babylonica as a parent. The hybrid species are, as I understand, much more common in Europe, so which is the "right" type of weeping willow? There is also one other sort of willow up here, the Crack willow ( Salix fragilis). Any experience with this tree? Edit: In the other thread I asked about Goat willow ( Salix caprea) and Fred said it was fine, so I guess that one can be added to the list. |
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Post by davx on Oct 25, 2011 22:04:15 GMT
Please give me the link, if you have finished your list.
I'd like to link your list.
By the way my sister speaks Norwegian. I was there in 2006, but understand only few words.
It seems that this is S. x sepulralis, because it is more hardy than the true weeping willow (S. babylonica). This hybrid species is also prefered as park and garden tree.
In the German wikipedia there are more details to this topic:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2011 10:23:57 GMT
Thank you, I'll add the Salis x sepulcralis then My list is much the same as yours, only I have removed the trees that do not grow here and added the Norwegian names instead of the German ones. It's not on the internet yet, it's going to be a part of an information site on degus in Norwegian that I am making. I got the design done yesterday, but the remaining coding will take a little more time. I'll post a link when it's up |
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Post by davx on Oct 26, 2011 22:22:49 GMT
There is an update:
I have added some problematic species, but fred and Jordan work on a more comprehensive list, focussing more on north American species (suitable ones as well as problematic species).
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