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Post by degualot on Dec 8, 2011 17:47:53 GMT
Hi, being a film maker, I produce quite a lot of short films, documentaries, music videos, among other things. I always thought hey, why aren't there any decent documentaies about Degus. I mean there are plenty of docs about other animals but Degus don't seem to get much of a look in.
I was thinking next year I might start planning to produce a documentary about Degu's, not for profit or any particular reason, just because I want to, I love Degu's, and I think It would be entertaining to watch them in a short Documentary. Which could include a whole host of things, including facts about them as pets and facts about them in the wild.
This would take a lot of careful planning so, it won't be happening anytime soon but if I start planning it now, next year maybe something can happen about it. Of course if the budget permits I might even visit a few native regions to see if I can capture some actual wild footage of Degus in their natural habitat, but this is only a thought and it totally depends if I can get it all together to work, if I can, then i'll do it.
I'm a student film maker so I would have to fit it into my schedule but I don't think there's a doc I would rather do, than that of Degu's.
What do you guys think, good idea, bad, pointless.... any thoughts?
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Post by fred on Dec 8, 2011 18:21:00 GMT
I think this is an absolutely brilliant idea!!! In particular if degus in the wild can be included. There is soo much we don't know or understand.
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Post by degualot on Dec 8, 2011 18:34:38 GMT
Thanks for the enthusiastic responce Fred, well I was searching online and realised, there isn't any actual wild footage available that I can find of Degu's running around in the wild. Now I admit i've never done a wild life documentary. I've been taught about making them but never done one practically. So i'll have to make sure I know what i'm doing. Also this will only be a part of the documentary, it will be mixed with informative information about both Degu's in the wild and as pets.
I'll begin with a Plan of attack and go from there, have to do lot's of research but I'm glad I got your seal of approval. ;D
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Post by malteser60 on Dec 8, 2011 19:55:38 GMT
That is a reallly good idea degualot. It would require lots of prep especially if you're going to film them native. Have you seen the BBC wildlife filming apprenticeship. I've passed on the link to a couple students before but that was a couple years ago must admit. Seriously, if you want to do this see if you can get some sponsership as well (sorry, spelling is atrocious tonight!).
As you know we can definitely help from the pet owner's side of things and some knowledge about dgus in the wild.
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Post by blossombrooks on Dec 8, 2011 19:58:02 GMT
Yay! Please do that, sounds brilliant. I think if more people saw degus and truly understood them there would be numerous advantages.
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Post by moletteuk on Dec 8, 2011 20:10:49 GMT
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Post by degualot on Dec 8, 2011 20:32:19 GMT
Thanks for the input guys, yes I've see that video before. It's cool to seem them like that. I realise how much prep this is going to take, although I'm a student at the Northern Film School here in leeds, I've actually been making films for around 6 years now. Yeah started when I was around 24, god hitting 30 in 2 month, not looking forward to it.
I'll check out the BBC to see if I can get any help with that. Also the people I work with at the film school, work with the BBC so I can just ask them, I'm sure they'll be more than happy to help. Equipment wise, I know exactly what I need, I have most of it already, which belong to me as I do freelance work, however there are a few things I don't have and need to get.
I understand how much prep this will take to be done properly. I also want very high quality footage. So this doc should be good enough for TV or at least the web. I'll start getting the ball rolling but I have a passion to get it done, so the more information the better, obviously I'll be collaborating with all you guys, after all, there are a lot of people on this forum who have much insight into the subject, I know quite a lot about Degu's but I know nothing compared to some members on this forum who I consider well informed.
So although this is not the first Doc i've ever done, I've done a lot, it's my first one in the wild, assuming this becomes a reality. Which I hope it does.
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Post by davx on Dec 8, 2011 21:35:34 GMT
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Post by degualot on Dec 8, 2011 21:51:40 GMT
davx thanks for that information that will definitely help towards the research. I will read up on all the information. Thanks
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Post by davx on Dec 8, 2011 22:30:56 GMT
Preferred habitats and study sites in Chile: Degus occur between 28 and 35° S (Contreras et al. 1987). They inhabit semi-arid thorn-scrub steppe, the so called Matorral. They prefer open space and avoid dense vegetation, but they search the protection of shrubs and rocks. That means, that they prefer free horizontal sight (predator detection), respective low sized herb layer and shrub canopy protection against areal predators (Ebensperger & Hurtado 2005). Study sites from north to south: - Fray Jorge (near La Serena, Coquimbo, around 30° S, 400 km N of Santiago) - Aucó (near Illapel, around 31° S, 300 km N of Santiago) Santiago de Chile (33 °S): - Rinconada de Maipu (Estacion Experimental, Universidad de Chile, 30 km SW from Santiago) - Lampa (capture site for degus, 30 km NW of Santiago) - Quebrada de la Plata ("Silver Canyon", 30 km SW from Santiago) - Ocoa (biggest palm forest of the endangered Chilean wine palm, once an important resource for our degus, Parque Nacional La Campana; cf. Zunino et al. 1992) - San Carlos de Apoquindo (1100 m altitude, 20 km E of Santiago; cf. Jaksic 2001) Literature: Contreras, L., J. Torres-Mura, J. Yanez (1987): Biogeography of Octodontid rodents: An eco-evolutionary hypothesis. Fieldiana: Zoology, New Series, 39: 401-411. Ebensperger, L.A. Hurtado, M.J. (2005): On the relationship between herbaceous covervigilance activity of degus (Octodon degus). Ethology 111: 593-608. ( PDF) Jaksic, F. (2001): Spatiotemporal variation patterns of plants and animals in San Carlos de Apoquindo, central Chile. Revista Chilena de Historia Natural 74(2): 477-502. doi:10.4067/S0716-078X2001000200021. ( HTML) Zunino, Saiz & Yates (1992): Uso del espacio, densidad de Octodon degus y oferta de recursos en Ocoa, Parque Nacional La Campana, Chile. Revista Chilena de Historia Natural 65: 343-355. ( PDF)
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Post by degualot on Dec 8, 2011 23:03:43 GMT
amazing, well off to a good start, looks like I got my work cut out for me. Thanks for all the info.
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Post by davx on Dec 8, 2011 23:55:48 GMT
You are welcome. Just an additional note: In Aucó there is also the Chinchilla Reserve and the "Save the last Chinchillas" project from the american scientist Amy Deane. Chinchillas are rare and it isn't likely to film then, even to observe them is pretty hard and they are nocturnal (that means a camera with infrared light is needed). Thus chinchillas itselves probably aren't interesting enough, but the Chinchilla Reserve, its environment (flora and fauna), the visitors centre might be word to mention or Deanes chinchilla project: she engages for reforestagion, has a own seedling nursery, collect the seeds from native shrubs and let them grow to little robust plants, she can "release" them in wild: www.wildchinchillas.org/This might be also interesting, but keep in mind the distances, in Santiago the different degu sites are close together, but Aucó as well as Fray Jorge are some 100 km away from Santiago, the heart of Chile and civilisation. Both is in the north, and thus there isn't much infrastructure and density of population and towns is low (in contrast the southern part - south of Santiago - is more populated and the climate is more like in Europe). That might be also an advantage, because there is more nature, but I think also it makes it more complicated to achieve quick results (time/money is often limited) and on the other hand, near Santiago I assume there is a more diverse structure of different niches making it easier to switch between the different sites and to discover new ones.
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Post by NightwishRaven999 on Dec 9, 2011 3:41:06 GMT
This is a great long term project Degualot ! Please keep us updated !
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Post by deguconvert on Dec 9, 2011 4:24:56 GMT
Just want to throw in my support as well!! This is a great idea!! I look forward to hearing about it as you move a long with it!
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Post by Kins on Dec 9, 2011 11:11:07 GMT
This sounds fab. I am looking forward to seeing how it progresses!
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Post by debdegu on Dec 9, 2011 11:36:54 GMT
Degu documentary would be cool always wondered why there wasn't one as well. I wanted to tell national geographic to make one
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Post by degualot on Dec 10, 2011 2:27:36 GMT
well I was speaking to a freelance documentary film maker today who often does projects for the BBC. He gave me some contact information so hopefully, something will happen, I'm hoping they will help out. However I have to have a plan first, the information provided here is a great start.
I would love to see this happen. Luckily for me Degu's do most of their running around during the day.
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Post by Bexi87 on Dec 10, 2011 5:21:01 GMT
This sounds fantastic!
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Post by debdegu on Dec 10, 2011 8:24:34 GMT
cool i think it should mention how they became pets and what is needed to look after them, so more people can learn about that part. And disscuss the noises they make heh cause there so cool ;D
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Post by beamfrost on Dec 10, 2011 11:56:34 GMT
Great idea. There is not enough information out there about Degus.
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